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Kids these days don't even know what an 'album' is.
They're so used to getting their music through streaming services like YouTube or Spotify and jumping from track to track that the entire concept of a fixed set of songs constituting a single work is completely foreign to them.
Kind of fun to watch their minds melt when you explain vinyl records to them.
 
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Been laughing for 5 whole minutes at this rant xD

Come on sanctum, you're not as old as you sound x) streaming services even separate albums from singles on artist's pages!

then again, the only "kids" i deal with are literal children and a few teenagers on twitter who like MM (so they know what an album is)... wouldnt really know what mainstream "kids these days" understand or not
 

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It is a topic that has been nibbling at the corner of my mind for a while, finally decided to talk to some youth about it and the responses gave me a pretty bleak view of the future.

Most of them had at least used a CD sometime in the past. Keyword here being past, they haven't used one in quite a while.

CD stores in my town have all closed down and the rental shop basically halved their music shelf space not too long ago.

The kids are crazy about Kpop these days, an industry that churns out groups and songs at such a pace that some of the kids can't even keep up.
One girl told me she doesn't remember the names of the songs, or sometimes even the groups that she likes, she only the dances.
I can't even wrap my head around that, 'Yeah, that song where they point to the left and wiggle their hips a bit, that was a good song'.

Being the ol' grouch that I am, I'm going to advocate for the radical position of banning all recorded music.
You want to hear a song? Learn an instrument, get together with your friends and play it your damn selves.
 

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CD stores in my town have all closed down
There was one around me, and the whole concept was so novel that they literally named themselves "The CD Store".
 
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FNAC still sells CDs I think. Newberry Comics is also still around, but I dunno if they sell CD's anymore.
I also thought that Japanese artists still put out albums in physical form - they've been pretty Big in Japan about music and video mediums in the past.
Not so much anymore?

Anyhow, violins and flutes aren't used in rock music, and I only know how to play 2 songs on the guiter, and they are Mmm-Bop and Brise, and I'm terrible at both so mandatory making of own music veto'd.
 

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they've been pretty Big in Japan about music and video mediums in the past.
Maybe in the past, but the current situation has changed a lot.
There are certainly people who still like and use CDs but they're definitely outliers.

What's more, a lot of younger people don't even own TVs and instead just watch/listen to everything through their phone.
So, even if they had a CD (or even DVD) they don't own anything that could play it.
I gave a CD to a friend and the only thing they had in the house that could play it was a laptop that was still running Windows Vista.
The video rental store even had these strange wireless DVD drives that could steam the video straight to your phone available for rental.

As far as streaming go, Hulu and Netflix seem to be the most popular for video and then Apple Music for music.
Amazon probably enters into it somewhere but I haven't heard many people talk about that one.

Like I said, the kids are obsessed with Kpop, a of them don't even like Japanese music because it's boring.
It's pretty bleak really. Hopefully the trend peaks and rapidly dies soon.
 

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We are going backwards when it comes to pop music. At least the way it is released.

Back in the day it was all about singles. Albums were just compilations of the newest hit singles with some "b-side filler" added in. After some time artists actually started to care about the album as a concept. Albums became the symphonies of popular music, you could say. The tracklist was carefully thought out and so on. Because of streaming, we are going back to the single release times. Except there's no physical singles or even compilation albums.

One of my coworkers (he's in his early 60's) genuinely claims that ALL albums have just one or two good songs and everything else is just filler. I once told him that I don't own any albums where the second half is considerably worse than the first half and he just laughed in disbelief. I asked him to name one album where that is the case and he said "Every album!". This is how a lot of people view albums as, as odd as it is, so this isn't anything new, you know?
Crazier still, this guy claims to be a lover of music (he even plays some piano) and that his taste in music is objective. This means that if he dislikes a song; it's objectively bad. And if a song doesn't play on the radio: it's because it's a bad song.
(To be fair, this person is also the biggest idiot I've ever met in my life. Like, you know the thing about "think of the most dimwitted person you know and imagine that most people in this world are even less intelligent than him"? Well, when I think of this man I think "at least all the people in this world are smarter than him.")


And when it comes to trends and people listening to music simply because it's popular.... Well, that has ALWAYS been the case. You really think that the screaming idiots who ruined all The Beatles concerts by having loud orgasms in the audience gave a crap when they released Sgt. Pepper? Most of those teenagers had moved on already. 1960's in general is a pretty good comparison to kpop when you think about it. A lot of bands were made artificially (The Monkees) and some released multiple albums in a year, almost like a factory line.

Most people just don't care about music in the sense I assume people on this forum do. In a similar fashion most people don't actually care about movies even if they watch something now and then just to be entertained. People either dance to music or play it in the background. They don't care about the music itself, as long as it's pleasing to their ears on the most surface level. I don't mean people need to be educated in music theory or anything like that, I'm talking about simply being passionate about music you listen to.
Just look at music festivals. Most people who go to music festivals don't care about the bands that are playing, the sound is usually pretty trash anyway and the audiences only know few hit songs by a few of the bands performing. They only go there to have fun, do drugs and to get laid.

I remember how back in the day when I discovered some good music I would always play it to my friends with such excitement, trying to explain to them how hearing this music moved me and why it enriched my life. They always had these dead cow stares as they looked back at me, like the lights were on but nobody was home. It was so disheartening to realise that I can't connect with these friends of mine through music (or movies or books for that matter). A girl once told me how she likes this band that I'm somewhat familar with, so I asked her what's her favourite album by them. She got angry at me. Apparently the word "album" is somekind of a musical snob term and I was putting her down by using it, lmao. She was only 4 years younger than me.

Since then I've met people who seem like they are actually listening to me when I talk about my favourite music. They discuss it with me and then they usually tell me about their favourite music and why they love it. These people however are in the minority: because most people don't care about music.
 

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Well tbh, I think people appreciate music in different ways, and different songs serve different purposes.
For example, a good dance song is a good dance song, and that's ok.
Like Despacito. I would never chose to listen to it. But I will always chose to dance to it.

Besides, it's not like the 90's, 2000's didn't have their share of fabricated boybands lol
I was a HUGE Backstreet Boys fan, went to their concerts, screamed (because everyone else was so it's not like you'd hear the music anyway), etc.
But now, 20 years later, I still listen to their old songs from time to time and karaoke them with my friends, who do the same.

That said I don't like Kpop (aside from that "what you think about that" song), and I think BTS are fugly AF.
 

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You really think that the screaming idiots who ruined all The Beatles concerts by having loud orgasms in the audience gave a crap when they released Sgt. Pepper? Most of those teenagers had moved on already.
I never really thought about it much, since the Beatle-worship phenomenon in my lifetime has consisted entirely of the dead-enders who never, ever gave it up XD
 

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Is this going to be like the last one where you could watch it after it was "live"? or do you have to catch it right when it is happening?
 

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You weren't kidding about being old, huh
 

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so I'm guessing they didn't talk about the new album at all.
 
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