Mana/Yukie Itoh article/short interview

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  1. Lede -member- -member-

    Lede
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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:20 pm

    First off, thanks to FallenAngel for buying/scanning this :)
    Second, the article in question is apparently from "Josei Jishin", a weekly women's magazine, (possibly from 1996?) so obviously, it is not the greatest source.

    Thirdly, and this is the most important, a lot of it is rumors and second-hand information (cleared with Flowers, though), so stay tuned until the end, when Mana and Itoh themselves are interviewed.
    And please correct me if you see something in the article that I translated wrong or in a misleading manner D:

    An interview exclusive to this magazine...


    The first discussion of his "seven-year love with a female manager"

    MALICE MIZER MANA


    "Before our records were selling, the manager worked as a hostess and supported me"!


    "Right now, Mana and Gackt are mutually antagonistic and are far apart in terms of musicianship. Although their records were selling well, I thought they had just run into a wall, and so it would be fine if they split up due to their musical differences, but it seems that one of the office managers was involved...."

    These are the unclear words of a person connected to the musicians.

    Since their summer debut two years ago, Malice Mizer have swiftly come to the forefront of visual kei bands. This popular group of five have grown to have a fanclub membership exceeding 20,000, and their single sales regularly sell above 400,000 records, but lately an unusual dissonance has come to be heard.

    "Mana and Gackt are almost exclusively in charge of composing songs. When you get two people that talented together, of course there will be disagreements. But because Mana and the manager, Ms. Itoh were lovers, wouldn't he become almost unable to speak with the other members as well?" (The previously quoted person with connections)

    The office that Mana is associated with is called "Midi Nette", but the person in charge is a 27-year old woman, Ms. Yukie Itoh. In the past, she and Mana were lovers.

    "The fans took it as a matter of common knowledge. It felt like she had sort of kicked Miho Nakayama [?], and she seemed to be a very intense and serious person. Once we heard a rumor that they had a child together, and that was a topic of discussion among the fans for a while." (A fan).

    The relation between the leader of a popular band and the female manager of his office. To be an accomplished production manager at the young age of 27, what kind of a person is Ms. Itoh?

    A music director who has known Malice Mizer since the days of their debut testifies:

    "The two of them have been friends since childhood, so I guess they've had a relationship for over 20 years. Mana came to Tokyo about 7 years ago, and while he was stuck in the lower social circles, she really helped him out and looked after him, all while working as a hostess in Ginza."

    He also says he thinks that from the beginning, Mana wanted to make his debut on an independent record label.

    "In the beginning, all of the band members at the time and Ms. Itoh pooled their money together to release a record. That sold out, and suddenly people started to take notice of Malice Mizer. And for their next record, she was fully financially invested in it. I've heard that after that, supported financially only by her relatives, she founded the current office. Her reasoning for it was that she thought that "Malice Mizer would become rich", it seems. It's like she wanted to make Malice Mizer into a means to make money." (The music director)


    The female office manager who helped out the man she loved while he was down on his luck by working as a hostess--If we leave it at that, it is indeed a moving tale, but if we look at the reputation of their current circumstances, it's not so simple.

    "The base pay of each of the members is still about 150,000 yen per month.
    Even now they all live in large, old apartments, although Gackt is the only member who owns a car." (A person connected to the office)
    So you could say that all of this has happened thanks to manager Itoh.

    At any rate, to find out about their relationship, we decided we would go and ask them directly. We visited a simple apartment house within the area, and when we requested an interview, Mana willingly OK'd it.
    When we asked about his ties to manager Itoh, he hesitated a bit at first, but he soon said the following clearly.

    "My association with her is more than the usual ties between men and women. The things we aim for and the things we value are one and the same. And that is why we are still together."
    It's been seven years since he was struggling to make a living. Mana refutes the idea of their being in a relationship, saying he is tied to her by strong bonds that are "greater than the usual man and woman connection". And regarding the whispered rumors about manager Itoh being the cause of the members' discontent and discord, he says,
    "Of course various things have been said about it, but never think for one minute that I would abandon Midi:Nette."

    From manager Itoh's side, she denies it as well, saying, "That kind of thing (the two being lovers) has never happened", but when we told her that Mana confirmed their connection, her reaction changed.
    "Well, because I am a woman, I don't know if I should talk about that sort of thing..."
    As to be expected, when we asked regarding the rumors that she and Mana have a child together, she gave in to a laugh.

    Are these rumors simply the kind of slanderous statements that so often accompany a person's rise to stardom?

    At the end of the interview, this is what Mana said:
    "For me and for her, our meaning is completely the same, body and soul. Because the truth is that it's something within the heart of each and every person."
     
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  2. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

    flowersofnight
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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:40 pm

    Very interesting article, certainly. A lot of the "sources" don't seem to have it right. One of them credits Gackt and Mana for composing, but not Kozi, the supposed pay figures are shockingly low even adjusted for inflation, and the bit about Yukie Itoh founding Midi:Nette after releasing "memoire" isn't right. (M:N already existed in 1993)
    But I do believe that Mana and Yukie Itoh are good friends who go back a long time, and that's a nice story ^_^

    Oh, and I think the article is from 1999, since it says MM's "summer debut" (Bel Air in July '97) was two years ago at the time.
     
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  3. Camuflagem -member- -member-

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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:33 pm

    thanks for the translation and scan. I don't like much the direction they take into this interview, it is like mana needs to explain stuff. :P if he was with this woman before or not, it will not change anything anyway. But i found it quite impressive that she gave a lot of money to support malice mizer/midi:nette (if all the info is really true, that is).
     
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  4. FallenAngel -member- -member-

    FallenAngel
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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:39 pm

    Here is a photo from the aritcle.
    Please dont direct link, i pay alot for my bandwidth XD

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    anyway, Lede thank you very much for helping me. ^_^
     
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  5. faith -tea party- -tea party-

    faith
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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:10 pm

    k, my take is that they somehow tracked Mana and Yukie down paparazi-style and made them talk, because the answers are nice and vague there. The pic too. They don't sound like they had a real interview, or like they were welcomed in their questioning.

    But the rest could easily be made up and probably was.
    As Hanachan said, point is "they're friends". Cool.
     
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  6. Kamijo -member- -member-

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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:18 pm

    okay, is hanachan like a secret japanese nickname for flowers or something?
     
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  7. faith -tea party- -tea party-

    faith
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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:26 pm

    Sorry, yeah XD "flowers" = "hana", and "chan" = "Little" (it's a suffix for children's names).
     
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  8. Kamijo -member- -member-

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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:32 pm

    XD you have all the right to be friendly friendly with people XD at least now I'm IN THE KNOWWWW. Ohoho. I'm part of da scape krew naow.

    @Lede: thank you very much for this article =).
     
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  9. boi de memoire -member- -member-

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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:43 pm

    flowersofnight wrote:

    I too thought that was weird, but could could be talking about Gackt as the Lyricist
     
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  10. Kyuketsuki -dead scape- dead scape

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    Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:55 pm

    HAHAHAHA!!!

    Okay, I got that out of my system. XD

    This article is like something you'd see in the National Enquirer or something. :lol: Whoever what's her name is doesn't really matter, as far as I can tell. She sort of just seems like someone they dragged into the gackt departure for a little extra flare and intrigue claiming to have a new angle just to sell a few extra issues that week/month. :P

    Does anyone know if Yukie Itoh is still apart of midi:nette, though? That would be interesting if she was. And really, Mana doesn't seem the type to have a girl friend- I don't know about Malice Mizer days how he was, but these days....no. XD I don't think anyone could have that sort of relationship with him and put up with his sea monkeys/curry/guitar/video game/gundam model/eye liner crisis/god-knows-whatelse-he-hasn't-told-us-about-yet interests. :lol:
     
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  11. Laflesia -member- -member-

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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:55 am

    So this was all right after Gackt left? And what's all the "discontent and discord" that the article referrs to, and Mana refuting that he'd ever leave Midi:nette? It's all kinda confusing, like it was some big scandal, but this was the first I've heard of it. It's all interesting gossip though I couldn't really take any of this seriously. Thanks for posting it though.
     
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  12. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:59 am

    Kyuketsuki wrote:
    Yeah, she's still listed as producer on everything Midi:Nette releases.
     
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  13. Kyuketsuki -dead scape- dead scape

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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:07 am

    flowersofnight wrote:
    Perhaps ::cam:: ? Or more like ::cred:: like the article said. Although she's probably more akin to ::ash:: since it's been 10 years. ::meev::


    ..... ::zetsubou::
     
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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:09 am

    LOL

    This is like a soap opera. ::batsu::

    Well nonetheless, thanks for the article, Lede!
     
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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:56 am

    thanks for the translation, it could be very interesting if we were able to tell what's true and what's only rumor ._.
     
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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:04 am

    Thank you very much :D


    Can anyone confirm, if Yukie Itoh is also Moi dix Mois manager? I guess so, right?
    So I saw her at a few Moi dix Mois concerts...
     
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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:59 am

    Thank you so much, Lede and FallenAngel! This is a very interesting article, though it's very tabloid-like right? xD Thank you, seriously.. :)
     
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  18. Geisha -member- -member-

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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:19 am

    Could someone please re-post the scan of the article? It seems to have been taken down.
     
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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:25 am

    yun wrote:
    My guess is that everything in it is rumor except for the words directly from Mana and Yukie Itoh's mouths XD
     
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  20. Garnet in the Eden -member- -member-

    Garnet in the Eden
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    Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:55 am

    ^ Haha, yeah.

    Thanks very much but I don't like that article :(.
     
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