Shopper's Alert! The Thread

Discussion in '-off topic-' started by flowersofnight, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. etherealspirits -dead scape- dead scape

    etherealspirits
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    Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 5:30 pm

    flowersofnight wrote:
    It's a lot of people in Japan reliving their lost youth. Seems everyone is now claiming they were a bangya back when. (source: Twitter searches, lol)
     
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    Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 2:47 pm

    Cantavanda wrote:
    Yeah, anything from qld96 is suspect in my book. I'd avoid.

    We should make a list of questionable sellers. I saw one archived on 2ch somewhere once, that might be a good place to start if anyone can find it again.

    heutre wrote:
    Her "DEAD SILENCE" collaboration with Hinako was glorious, so I have hopes for it. (I'd love to find a full tape of that one day :( )
     
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    Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:12 pm

    I sadly wasted too much money on X JAPAN tapes by jnsyn936, all fake. Not only fake, but terribly sounding too. Do not recommend.
     
  8. etherealspirits -dead scape- dead scape

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    Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:26 pm

    flowersofnight wrote:
    That would be a good thread to sticky. Even if you don't have that 2ch list.
     
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    Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:23 am

    Cantavanda wrote:
    OOOOH SHYTE!!!! Sorry bro > . <
     
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    Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:32 am

    Here's a very pessimistic opinion from a Japanese writer in 2012:
    https://anago.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/visual/1285430924/563

    Their "collectors' rules for avoiding fakes":
    - Don't go for demo tapes
    - Free or livehouse limited CD-R demos should come with the ticket stub
    - Buy CDs when possible
    - Mail-order goods should come with their original envelopes/packaging
    - Don't trust autographed goods without accompanying ticket stubs/packaging
    - Don't buy anything else not mentioned in this list

    That's extremely strict XD When was the last time you saw anything that came with a ticket stub?

    Also: I'm not sure if everyone in the collecting scene has the same definition of "demo tapes". I think sometimes this refers to the promotional materials a band might make up to pitch themselves to record studios, which would never be sold to the public. That's a different kind of thing from the '90s-'00s VK scene where you could and did see demos printed by the thousands.
     
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    Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:38 am

    flowersofnight wrote:
    Really good collectors will keep their ticket stubs and at least show it in the photos if they are selling goods from a show. I do that as proof that I was there, if I still have the ticket. But then I don't have a lot of music merchandise to sell. And it's a lot harder with the older stuff.

    Back when there were more radio stations, music demos were more of a thing for pitching to them also. Sometimes they were labeled for promotional purposes only. And were easier to find even if they weren't to be sold also. In the US, limited stuff sold at shows was usually called a limited edition. I wonder if it was a translation thing that ended up with limited recordings at shows ending up being called "demos" in Japan? Or perhaps they were also viewed as demonstration recordings, even though they were sold or given to people attending? Semantics strikes again.
     
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    Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2018 6:42 pm

    Sh*t :(
     
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    Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2018 1:47 am

    Good lot for someone building a collection here: all of Da'vid/shito:aL's releases, plus Misa's solo demo, 3000Y
    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m83593913273

    Klaha's "setsubou" for only 5000Y:
    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m15482241034/

    Photos of "Kaya's previous band" (Isola)
    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m57989544321

    EDIT: look closer at what's going on here ::meev::
    https://static-mercari-jp-imgtr2.akamaized.net/item/detail/orig/photos/m57989544321_2.jpg?1509246837

    Incredibly old photo of Mana here (pre-Malice Mizer) for an incredibly high price:
    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m51424649416
    But you might want to just admire the picture without buying it XD

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    "Imperfection" volume 10 (the giant-size farewell issue)
    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m69772887056

    Kicking my dang self for missing this magazine with a C'est La Vie interview:
    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m33784965907
     
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    Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:19 am

    Quick question: does anyone have the Selection de Performances Live DVD and is it worth buying? Like, is any of this new fotage? And by "new" I mean not on Voyage live or merveilles de l'image or any of those more mainstream releases ::bleh::

    https://item.mercari.com/jp/m34194201717/
     
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    Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:27 am

    MorganIvy wrote:
    Nope. Buy something else.
     
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    Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2018 2:31 am

    Thank you @flowersofnight. May Krampus pass you by tonight and may you find something nice from Közi in your stocking ::mana::

    btw I've seen photos that look similar so I don't think it's too pre-MALICE MIZER.
     
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    Posted: Thu Dec 6, 2018 3:29 am

    I'm laying claim to Da'vid!
    Good spotting Flowers ^^
     
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