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Gackt is officially a religion.
 

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I find it funny after all the laughing and after the

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Someone please tell me that someone hacked into Gackts site and created a nice graphic to put on it and to fool all his fans o_o'
I mean..what the fuck?! O_______o

It amuses me because of the backward logic and the people jumping to conclusions just because the title of the song reflects a religious character. Have we forgotten the song Maria from Rebirth? That has obvious religious references or themes though more of the superficial way. In my eyes, to me it seems like he is doing more Rebirth stuff, so Im guessing this may just go along with that story more

And recently Hyde and L'arc en Ciel have done similar things yet actually involving religion straight into their songs with Jesus Christ and Hurry Xmas. And there are probably a lot more of other examples.

Im somewhat religious and I dont take your comments to offense at all because I dont care what anyone believes or doesnt believe. But what I do find stupid is that there is so much blindness that even a mention of some sort of religion and it's automatically seen as a joke or the song is automatically going to be seen as cheesy or horrible. To me, from a logical stand point, is completely blind and simple minded.
 

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^ It's got nothing to do with any sort of religion, so you can get off your high horse right there. :P

It's the fact that the man has the balls to name a single "Jesus". Maria is an overdone title and hasn't been scandalous to use in at least 200 years. How often do you see a song entitled "Jesus" on the pop charts? This, of course, excludes the hypocrites in the 'christian music industry' who make money by flaunting their religious beliefs. :P

It's an ego thing, especially coming from gackt. XD
 

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I don't understand why anyone is saying it has anything to do with Gackts ego.

:| Like. seriously. It doesn't say "Gackt is Jesus" or anything like that. It's the name of a song. :|

There's no indication, even remotely, that gackt is even vaguely refering to himself.

::erm:: wtf.

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what computer are you on? :| if tinypic images are blocked then I suspect you're not on your own computer. just come back and look at it on your computer. xD

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@Nocturne: This has been bothering me. Your avatar doesn't work and the error image from photobucket that comes up is wider than is allowed in the website, and it stretches out the page. Can you please change it? ::kiss::
 

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Amatsu wrote:
There's no indication, even remotely, that gackt is even vaguely refering to himself.
I dunno, the limited edition cover with the scraggly facial hair looks kind of Jesus-y XD

But that aside, it's just too much if you ask me. I mean, you can't just go and borrow the name of the single most-worshipped deity in the world for what is presumably a non-religious song, without looking silly XD
 

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Nocturne wrote:
And recently Hyde and L'arc en Ciel have done similar things yet actually involving religion straight into their songs with Jesus Christ and Hurry Xmas. And there are probably a lot more of other examples.

But Hyde (not L'Arc I believe) has been open about his beliefs and explained his exploration of his faith (Thus an entire album called FAITH) in his music (crap I wish I could remember the interview...). Hurry Xmas has ONE religious line, at the end. It's just an xmas song.

But Gackt? It feels to me like he chose the title on a whim and it will probably be some rock ballad.

P.S. I am an atheist and most religious references are completely lost on me and I don't make those sorts of connections. So until this thread I never once "Maria" or Rebirth had anything to do with religion (Because I've never heard the Virgin Mary called Maria before).
 

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^ It's got nothing to do with any sort of religion, so you can get off your high horse right there. Razz

It's the fact that the man has the balls to name a single "Jesus". Maria is an overdone title and hasn't been scandalous to use in at least 200 years. How often do you see a song entitled "Jesus" on the pop charts? This, of course, excludes the hypocrites in the 'christian music industry' who make money by flaunting their religious beliefs. Razz

It's an ego thing, especially coming from gackt. XD

Im not getting on my high horse. It's just annoying when people argue about religion. Believe what you want and dont bash others for their religion and everything is fine. No one is going to change anyones mind but themselves if you believe something. Not saying you're doing that, just alot of people tend to say it's a horrible song when they havent even heard it just because there are religious undertones to the song title.

And like someone else said, how is it an ego thing? I think people are going to make it into an ego thing because while Gackt doesnt have a big ego, that doesnt mean he thinks he is Jesus since he hasnt said it. He just called his single that. Does that also mean he thinks he is a birdcage?

I dunno, the limited edition cover with the scraggly facial hair looks kind of Jesus-y XD

But that aside, it's just too much if you ask me. I mean, you can't just go and borrow the name of the single most-worshipped deity in the world for what is presumably a non-religious song, without looking silly XD

Yeah, but the thing is, that isnt Gackt looking like Jesus. Its an extra portraying him

And it depends on how you look at it. He is worshipped by Christians, but Muslims dont worship him. They respect him and respect him for the things he said. Using the name Jesus as the song title could be just that, a symbol of the meaning behind the song as in what he taught, not the idea of him as part of God.

But Hyde (not L'Arc I believe) has been open about his beliefs and explained his exploration of his faith (Thus an entire album called FAITH) in his music (crap I wish I could remember the interview...). Hurry Xmas has ONE religious line, at the end. It's just an xmas song.

But Gackt? It feels to me like he chose the title on a whim and it will probably be some rock ballad.

P.S. I am an atheist and most religious references are completely lost on me and I don't make those sorts of connections. So until this thread I never once "Maria" or Rebirth had anything to do with religion (Because I've never heard the Virgin Mary called Maria before).

Does it really matter if Hyde or Gackt has been open with US about their religion. They could say nothing of religion in their songs, yet they may be deeply spiritual people. Or they could put things like that into their songs. But I do know the interview you are talking about. About Hyde believing there is a God and that he respects Jesus as a person and what he taught. He just stated that he doesnt like how a god runs this world with all the suffering if I remember correctly.

About Hurry Xmas, it is just a christmas song, but he still chose to put that in there. He really didnt have to, especially since the majority of Japanese people arent Christian and I believe see it as more of a social holiday (someone correct me on that if Im wrong)

And like I said, it's cool if you are an atheist and I understand that you wont get as much out of the lyrics and thats fine. The thing is, like I stated about, even though you are an atheist, by naming the song Jesus doesnt necessarily mean you have to take it in a religious sense. Im willing to bet you believe in treating people good and not wanting to bring pain upon people, which are things Jesus talked about. So the song could be about wanting to make the world a better place and not about Jesus as a religious figure. It just really all depends on how you decide to take the meaning of the song. Though we dont even know what the lyrics are so really it doesnt even matter yet XD
 

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^ you are all looking too heavily into this single. Let the song come out and then talk about it...seriously how stupid.
 

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Ew, I don't like Gackt with a moustache and all that facial hair XD

"Jesus".....LOL. I think the whole thing is pretty weird. (unless the song turns out to be a church song ::meev:: )
 

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I cannot believe people are actually surprised by this. Not after Hyde released an album called Faith with a cover depicting him as Jesus Christ and a song titled Jesus Christ with the lyrics “Jesus Christ”. No to mention the Luna Sea song titled Jesus ,or the Dir en Grey song Jesus Christ R'n'R or the countless other songs with the name Jesus in the title that have been released in the last few decades.I can’t be the only one who does not see the blatant hypocrisy when people call it shocking ,silly, weird, or outrageous when Gackt does something that dozens of other artists have already done before.

I would also point out that Japan has little to no Christian population ,making releasing a song in Japan named Jesus the shock equivalent of someone realising a song named Zeus.
 

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PureElegance wrote:
^ what? XD

Amatsu wrote:
PureElegance wrote:
Ew, I don't like Gackt with a moustache and all that facial hair XD

That's not gackt... :|
YES IT IS *gets struck down by lightning* ::meev::

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Jesus....
 

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Mistressyoukai wrote:
PureElegance wrote:
^ what? XD

Amatsu wrote:
PureElegance wrote:
Ew, I don't like Gackt with a moustache and all that facial hair XD

That's not gackt... :|
YES IT IS *gets struck down by lightning* ::meev::

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Jesus....
Wow, I've never seen that before o_O I'm not much of a Gackt fan though, so maybe that's why XD
 

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Nocturne wrote:
*30 page essay on JRock and Jesus*

Dude. Calm down. I don't think anyone here is getting all serious and worked up over this single. I took the vast majority of the comments to be just-off hand jokes because Gackt is always a fun target to make fun of and some of us will take any slight opportunity he gives us to mock him and run with it.

And even the serious comments are about 1% as upset and huffy as your posts. So chill. It's just a song.
 
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