The Karaoke/Midi Thread

[sanctum]

Are they the same machines with Moi dix Mois tracks as well? I'd be stoked to get my hands on anything I can convert to guitar lines!

 

[flowersofnight]

Not the same as the ones I linked previously. These Joysound machines actually seem to be missing most of the M10M catalog. The top-of-the-line machine only has 3 of their songs, and the drive I got isn't from one of those.

But hey, there's nothing stopping you from doing the same experiment on the DAM drives, right? This guy seems to mass-produce them for 1000Y:
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f174299596

 

[heutre]

Now listen here, this is more of a "Regular Dictionary" kind of place

hahaha thanks for the clarification

 

[sanctum]

Not the same as the ones I linked previously. These Joysound machines actually seem to be missing most of the M10M catalog. The top-of-the-line machine only has 3 of their songs, and the drive I got isn't from one of those.

But hey, there's nothing stopping you from doing the same experiment on the DAM drives, right? This guy seems to mass-produce them for 1000Y:
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f174299596

That is a task for someone far more bold than I! There don't happen to be any Kaya tracks squirreled away on those drives at all?

 

[Wandering_Fox]

Glitter Arch was one a few of the machines I used in Japan in the past, and I've seen Vampire Requiem (and Walkure once) but that was about it for Kaya ^^;

 

[flowersofnight]

DAM apparently has 13 Kaya songs now:
https://www.clubdam.com/app/leaf/artist ... ode=414347

Joysound has only 4:
http://joysound.biz/search/artists/deta ... achine/j12

All this being for the top-of-the-line machines anyway. Pay less, get less
I picked the Joysound machine because they had a way better selection of P-MODEL and Hirasawa tracks Their top model has EVERYTHING but even the cheap one has a better lineup than DAM.

 

[Wandering_Fox]

The irritating thing is, as you can see with Kaya, they have almost completely different tracks... But DAM has Remains of Mind, so...

Joysound on the Wii has almost no JILS songs, but has just about every D=SIRE song (Both YUKIYA bands under his label). It has no songs by Babylon, but the karaoke bar near my house (Rock Box) has nearly all of them. With indies bands, it's a huge gamble what you're going to get... (Joysound has Fester Love and Beautiful the Virgin on the Wii, Rock Box has Perfect Garden, etc...)

I just checked the DAM list for JILS and it has pretty much ALL my jams that Joysound doesn't! I never knew this existed and now I desperately need it!

 

[sanctum]

Premier Amour's all right... but a good trick is priceless

....finally dawned on me.

 

[flowersofnight]

Got the hard drive in today, but it's in an odd custom format of some sort. There's a floppy disk boot sector on there (?!), and no partition table. But the software on there is definitely regular PC stuff - I see a Windows MFC application on there. I'll have to dump out the whole drive and see if I can extract the file system for real. I'm betting if I just make a dummy partition table pointing to the beginning of the real data it might just work as-is. It can't be anything too bizarre if Windows programs can run on it.

 

[flowersofnight]

Update: I got access to the files, but they're in some sort of weird format. Here's an example, Malice Mizer's "Garnet":
http://www.prideofmind.com/data/MS181832.MSY

Y'all can feel free to pry into this as well. First step is probably to figure out how they're encoding Japanese text - I'll check this later.

 

[sanctum]

Agh, a shame I'm not at my last job anymore, the IT guys would have loved to crack open something like this.

Is there anything in specific you need to know about them? I could try and get in contact with them.

 

[flowersofnight]

Is there anything in specific you need to know about them?

Eh, nothing in particular, it's just that none of the data is in a standard format, other than some English text in ASCII. The Japanese text doesn't seem to be any flavor of Unicode, (Shift-)JIS or EUC, and the music data isn't MIDI.
I admittedly haven't gotten back to this since I've been working on other projects.

EDIT: actually the text does seem to be either ASCII or Shift-JIS, I was mistaken. Seems like in "Garnet" they wrote the English letters with ｔｈï½￾ｓｅ　ｓｉｌｌｙ　Ｊï½￾ï½￾ï½￾ｎｅｓｅ　ｆｕｌｌｗｉｄｔｈ　ｃｈï½￾ï½’ï½￾ｃｔｅｒｓ　 ::kisaki::

 

[Js_klaus]

I'm from IT and I have no idea of what to do with those MSY files xD

 

[sanctum]

Is there anything in specific you need to know about them?

ｔｈï½￾ｓｅ　ｓｉｌｌｙ　Ｊï½￾ï½￾ï½￾ｎｅｓｅ　ｆｕｌｌｗｉｄｔｈ　ｃｈï½￾ï½’ï½￾ｃｔｅｒｓ　 ::kisaki::

Haha, I love those things!

 

[sanctum]

Does anyone have a midi file for Ma Cherie?

 

[flowersofnight]

I found this file I uploaded a while back which has all the MIDIs I know of:
http://www.prideofmind.com/data/malicemizermidi.zip

There's a "ma cherie" in there. As well as more lame sheet music

 

[sanctum]

Awesome! Thank you very much. I'm hoping I can extract some guitar parts out it!

 

[Light]

Hi!
I'm a new user just registered here.
I love Malice Mizer, Gackt, Moi Dix Mois and LAREINE, Versailles, KAMIJO too.
I'm addictet to Karaoke and Midi Files and always dreamed to grab them from the original Karaoke Machines.
I wondered if "flowersofnight" figured out the Karaoke drive extracting process.
There are any midi inside?

 

[flowersofnight]

No, I gave up on it. You can try examining one of the files if you want:
http://www.prideofmind.com/data/MS181832.MSY

I checked the frequency of all bytes in the file, and it was pretty much flat across the board, which would indicate that the file is compressed or encrypted or something. Most likely you'd need a full set of hard drives from the karaoke machine to figure out what's going on. They have an "A", "B", and "C" drive, and I only got the "B" one. If anyone wants to buy me a full set I'll take another look

 

[Light]

No, I gave up on it. You can try examining one of the files if you want:
http://www.prideofmind.com/data/MS181832.MSY

I checked the frequency of all bytes in the file, and it was pretty much flat across the board, which would indicate that the file is compressed or encrypted or something. Most likely you'd need a full set of hard drives from the karaoke machine to figure out what's going on. They have an "A", "B", and "C" drive, and I only got the "B" one. If anyone wants to buy me a full set I'll take another look

Hahaha
I sent you a mail some hours ago.
Oh, really?
This is too bad!!
Anyway the best choice (imo) is LIVE DAM STADIUM.
'cause there are many rare songs of Kaya, Moi Dix Mois, Malice Mizer and very rare Versailles's songs!
DAM is the only who has LAREINE's Saikai No Hana! (absolutely Very rare midi)
Gackt's songs are the same in both DAM and JOYSOUND.
I won a karaoke contest as best male voice with Gackt's Love Letter in a Comic Convention in Sicily. During the contest the device was a big JOYSOUND machine. The owner (half Japanese and half Italian) told me that is not possible to extract midi normally, or maybe that Joysound converted everything in .ogg vorbis files, and play it via streaming process.