Which is the best rpg series?

[Orchid]

X-DEATH was ridiculous with an even funnier name. Sounds like a metal band

It SHOULD be a metal band name.

No X-DEATH, but there is/was a metal band named after Zeromus, I'm pretty sure.

 

[Lem]

I agree about the greatness that is the Magna Carta/War of Genesis artwork....and about Magna Carta the actual game being rather sucky. XD

Game play wasn't very good but I don't speak any bit of Korean but getting the game wasn't really for the whole well actual game, I wanted that artbook

 

[Elec]

I picked Final Fantasy.

And Flowers, I tried to play Seiken Densetsu 3, but I used to have an online acquaintance who went by the name "Hawkeye"; he was such a douche that whenever I load the game, I think of him, shudder, and shut off my computer and go outside and break in the fresh air.

 

[Munkyboy]

havent played anyone, i guess its not a thing that i dont do a lot, but when it turns a vice (i think this is the Word) no one can take me from the screen
ehehe

 

[Pierrot]

SMT. Along with Persona.

 

[Daikirai]

I voted Shadow Hearts because... I read "Tales of[something]" too late.
Actually Tales of Symphonia is my favorite ^^
Sooooon I will be able to play the game again and then I will die from starving, because everytime I touch this game I forget to eat, drink and learn for school and lose a hell of weight... *obessed*

 

[Orunitier]

I chose FF 'cause it's great. And I'm trying to play all games of the main series. Need to play: I, II, III, IV, need to finish X, play X-2 and XI.

But really, Zelda shouldn't be on here. It's not an RPG. It's an Adventure game. :/

 

[Pierrot]

I chose FF 'cause it's great. And I'm trying to play all games of the main series. Need to play: I, II, III, IV, need to finish X, play X-2 and XI.

But really, Zelda shouldn't be on here. It's not an RPG. It's an Adventure game. :/

The meaning of role playing game is not " turn based fighting game "

 

[Cally]

Also, where's the Chrono series? Chrono Trigger is by far my favorite RPG ever.

*gasp* You're right! If I could I would change my vote to the Chrono series :O

I'm so mad at that damn Chrono Crusade anime. It has NOTHING to do with the games and just uses the damn name of the Chrono series to get attention. On top of that, it sucks. ;[

I lost faith in Final Fantasy after VI. VII is where FF started to fall off the map to me and started to focus on other things besides a great game, like OMFG BISHOUNENZ D:. And Square Enix is falling off the map even further. Although, I'm quite excited for FFXIII due to the new battle system and jumping back to a futuristic style.

Pssh whatever, FFVIII doesn't get the love it diserves
But XIII looks cool~ and XII is coming out in a few days, right?

I actually forgot about VIII. That wasn't a bad game, although there's a bunch of things in there I find to be a little unexplained.

XD Name what was left unexplained, and I could probably tell ya. Ive played through and read into that game enough times over the years to where I'm surprised my brain hasnt exploded yet. It was a good game, and my first out of the series.

I like Final Fantasy. Why? I don't know. Though Cloud is boring and confusing, Squall is more zetsubou than Kyo himself, Zidane is sorta bland, Tidus is frickin' annoying, and Yuna is a giant area of grey, I still love the gameplay. Other RPGs didn't really make much of an impression on me, because it just didn't feel the same.

I guess I'm just attatched to FFVII because it was my first.

See, that's what bothers me about FF fandom (not to use you as an example Riz. Sorry xD) but alot of FF fans only know from VII onward, and that annoys me because the real gold of FF was before that time. Everyone knows of the OMFGPRETTY villains and stuff like Sephiroth, Kuja and Seifer, but what about the REAL villains like Kefka, Zeromus and X-DEATH?!

Not ALL of the FF fans are like that though, since Orchid linked me to a decent emulator I've been backtracking through the games. I like III(6?) a lot so far, have yet to beat it though ((Still playing through it. It'll take me a while I'm rather obsessive about leveling up >_>) I still got a few other FFs to play once I'm done that, I have a lot of catching up to do with the series.

uh..since I'm rambling I'll sum it up- Not all of the fans are obsessed with "ZOMFG PRETTY O.O *drools*" crap. I prefer a strong storyline to shininess. Having both is nice, but I'd rather have a decent story to pick apart when I'm bored.

And Seifer totally doesnt count as a villian As much as he amuses me, he was a minor annoyance at best. And a snappy dresser.

 

[Camuflagem]

I chose FF 'cause it's great. And I'm trying to play all games of the main series. Need to play: I, II, III, IV, need to finish X, play X-2 and XI.

But really, Zelda shouldn't be on here. It's not an RPG. It's an Adventure game. :/

but the past zelda games are not adventure games, only n64 games onward. And some people like to classify it as Action-RPG, like Brave Fencer Musashi , Kingdom Hearts and Dragon Valor, for example.


I voted for Final Fantasy too... i can't help it, still my favourite series...maybe now that Misty Walker is making awesome games, my favourite one will change.

 

[Priss]

Damn, Musashi was awesome.
I loved that game. I wish I still had it.

 

[Pierrot]

Aww, Final Fantasy is like a series who had good indies music, got signed for a huge label and releases poppy songs that they don't really write anymore.

Ever since FFVII ( which was good ) there has been no real improvement. The games are still good, don't misunderstand me, but..

Why don't you try Dragon Quest? or Persona? or Shin Megami Tensei? or Mother? Rhapsody?(I could go on for years)

Or any other series (or not) that have much more potential, are much more better, and are just not loved because they don't have " that sexy costy PV on television you see at 8 times on television every day? "

 

[Camuflagem]

Why don't you try Dragon Quest? or Persona? or Shin Megami Tensei? or Mother? Rhapsody?(I could go on for years)

I tried Dragon Quest already and it sucks! For the record, DQ7 and DQ8.

Awful storyline, a main character that does not talk and without any personality, and the battle system just annoys me to no end.

I still have to play these others, though.

It is wrong to say FF didn't improve, though. FF10 even with a not so impressive storyline and characters, had the most dynamic battle system ever in FF series. I enjoyed it a lot. I also enjoyed FF8 for a lot of reasons, i think it is not bad. And FF12 ( i didn't play it yet), but it is getting a lot of prize -- even from Famitsu.

 

[flowersofnight]

I tried Dragon Quest already and it sucks! For the record, DQ7 and DQ8.

You haven't experienced pure undiluted suck until you play DQ1 though.

 

[Pierrot]

It is wrong to say FF didn't improve, though. FF10 even with a not so impressive storyline and characters, had the most dynamic battle system ever in FF series. I enjoyed it a lot. I also enjoyed FF8 for a lot of reasons, i think it is not bad. And FF12 ( i didn't play it yet), but it is getting a lot of prize -- even from Famitsu.

(I am not going to comment about DQ) because it's probably only a matter of preference, sexy graphics or depth in game. I hardly believe you have beaten those games or tried getting used to it. ps: Link never talks and is the most adored adventure character in the game world. The storyline gets better and better, just like any other rpg, except that it's not the same love "crap" from FF7 to 10. The character's personality, is your personality. That's the point of it. The battle system however is not ever so beautiful, but is in fact, just exactly like FF10's battle system, which makes it very ironic of you to say. (oh, I ended up commenting.)

Ah,the most dynamic battle system ever in FF series? It is the sole and pure form of "Turn Based" which is the complete opposite of dynamic. Unless you mean the graphics of the characters when you press attack. I have to agree with the FF10 characters, because even the team realized Kimahri was going to be a failed character but still put him in. That's why even if you didn't use him in the game more than 5 minutes, you still own when you -must- play him near the end at Mt. Gagazet.

FF8 was very good, and had a nice system that seemed too complex for people to adore. People(american-european gamers) are very scared of "non-conventional things" in the RPG world and Square realized that after FF8. And since "conventional" in american-european gamers is FF7, well~.

I received 3 demos of FF12 from Square-Enix, and surely it looks interesting, and it feels like right now there -is- improvement going on. But it's only because they changed their team. The fighting system is a blend of their old system and the one found in MMORPGS, to be precise, FFXI. If you like dynamic fighting systems in your RPGs, you will definitly like this one. Also, if you want to play the whole experience, you'll need to buy the DS FFXII game, love marketing~. I am still a bit redundant towards it because it isn't even released here, and they've been working on 3 versions FFXIII asap, so I'm worried, was it that much of a flop, or do they just want to make people buy the PS3?

- I want to point out that I am in no means against Final Fantasy, and that I am not saying it sucks, because I own almost every title from Squaresoft and Square-Enix to date, including the FFs. No, I don't spend all my money on games XD I just had a nice father, and also, as I would like to point out, worked for Square-Enix for a few years. Therefore, I am only saying that instead of eating a good steak every now and then you should try those rare meats that end up being very good if you put your heart to it. ~

Wow this was long XD

 

[Pierrot]

I tried Dragon Quest already and it sucks! For the record, DQ7 and DQ8.

You haven't experienced pure undiluted suck until you play DQ1 though.

Ahaha, I have to agree. It only got beatable at around III(which still sucked) and got good later.

 

[Camuflagem]

It is wrong to say FF didn't improve, though. FF10 even with a not so impressive storyline and characters, had the most dynamic battle system ever in FF series. I enjoyed it a lot. I also enjoyed FF8 for a lot of reasons, i think it is not bad. And FF12 ( i didn't play it yet), but it is getting a lot of prize -- even from Famitsu.

(I am not going to comment about DQ) because it's probably only a matter of preference, sexy graphics or depth in game. I hardly believe you have beaten those games or tried getting used to it. ps: Link never talks and is the most adored adventure character in the game world. The storyline gets better and better, just like any other rpg, except that it's not the same love "crap" from FF7 to 10. The character's personality, is your personality. That's the point of it. The battle system however is not ever so beautiful, but is in fact, just exactly like FF10's battle system, which makes it very ironic of you to say. (oh, I ended up commenting.)

Ah,the most dynamic battle system ever in FF series? It is the sole and pure form of "Turn Based" which is the complete opposite of dynamic. Unless you mean the graphics of the characters when you press attack. I have to agree with the FF10 characters, because even the team realized Kimahri was going to be a failed character but still put him in. That's why even if you didn't use him in the game more than 5 minutes, you still own when you -must- play him near the end at Mt. Gagazet.

FF8 was very good, and had a nice system that seemed too complex for people to adore. People(american-european gamers) are very scared of "non-conventional things" in the RPG world and Square realized that after FF8. And since "conventional" in american-european gamers is FF7, well~.

I received 3 demos of FF12 from Square-Enix, and surely it looks interesting, and it feels like right now there -is- improvement going on. But it's only because they changed their team. The fighting system is a blend of their old system and the one found in MMORPGS, to be precise, FFXI. If you like dynamic fighting systems in your RPGs, you will definitly like this one. Also, if you want to play the whole experience, you'll need to buy the DS FFXII game, love marketing~. I am still a bit redundant towards it because it isn't even released here, and they've been working on 3 versions FFXIII asap, so I'm worried, was it that much of a flop, or do they just want to make people buy the PS3?

- I want to point out that I am in no means against Final Fantasy, and that I am not saying it sucks, because I own almost every title from Squaresoft and Square-Enix to date, including the FFs. No, I don't spend all my money on games XD I just had a nice father, and also, as I would like to point out, worked for Square-Enix for a few years. Therefore, I am only saying that instead of eating a good steak every now and then you should try those rare meats that end up being very good if you put your heart to it. ~

Wow this was long XD

sorry, but i feel that your comments about FF always end up a little biased in the graphics department. If you think FF is all about graphics, good for you. that's your opinion, but i don't think this way. And how can you say i didn't try to get used to Dragon Quest? ~_~ do you even know me? I didn' t even had to answer this, but i will.. Yes, i did try, and the game still felt too much archaic and boring. A game role is to bring fun to the player, if it is not able to do this, then it fails. And, for me, DQ fails as a game and as a RPG.

About the main character, i don't like to think it is me, this is more like a "conventional table rpg" (i don't know how to say this in english), and DQ is a video game RPG, wich should have a different approach, in my opinion. That's how i see video game rpg Vs. table rpg. I don't even like Link or Chrono as characters either, mind you. I don't like that the character does not talk and seems like a dumb thing without a soul.

About FF10's battle system. It is surprising to hear someone say DQ's battle system is like FF10's; you are the first person i came accross that says such a thing. Yes, it is still turn-based, but i found the way the battle develops in FF10 to improve the strategy and speed of battles. While DQ still insists in the same archaic way of doing their systems, they don't care to improve or take a little bit of risk trying to change stuff in each title like FF series does. And when i said dynamic i didn't mean the graphics -- and i didn't like your sarcasm here -- i meant the gameplay. Imo, it made a difference in comparison to past titles, the gameplay was more fluid.

I don't think the storyline of DQ gets better and better, sorry. I think it is boring, they get around too much with irrelevant facts, and seems not very impressive, to me, at least. And i am not here to force my opinions on others, just saying mine. I would appreciate if you don't talk to me with sarcasm, thank you.

 

[Pierrot]

It seems that you approach it in a matter of taste more than quality, but I understand, since it is afterall, an entertainment business, so for most of the things you have said, I can't reply, or it will go on endlessly.

But I don't understand how fluidity can be modified in a game where you play your actions in a menu, where the time is stopped untill you agree to that action and where it is turn-based to a pure level. The way it is shown on screen (like how when you do many actions your characters move at a different speed to reach the enemy and all) is indeed more fluid but that has nothing to do with battle system, so if you mean the (sorry, but that's what it is.) graphics, then yes, these are more fluid. That's why I really enjoyed the X-2 Battles, but not the battle system itself.

I must say I hate the FF/DQ wars because they are very much opposites in term of everything else, both do not apply to every RPGamers public, and everyone who choses a side is limited in thought.

 

[Camuflagem]

It seems that you approach it in a matter of taste more than quality, but I understand, since it is afterall, an entertainment business, so for most of the things you have said, I can't reply, or it will go on endlessly.

But I don't understand how fluidity can be modified in a game where you play your actions in a menu, where the time is stopped untill you agree to that action and where it is turn-based to a pure level. The way it is shown on screen (like how when you do many actions your characters move at a different speed to reach the enemy and all) is indeed more fluid but that has nothing to do with battle system, so if you mean the (sorry, but that's what it is.) graphics, then yes, these are more fluid. That's why I really enjoyed the X-2 Battles, but not the battle system itself.

Yes, it can. Play earlier FFs and then play FF10 again, you will see why. As for the menu navigation, it is a classic thing for turn-based rpgs, and you know this. Also, FF's menus have better menu navigability than DQ's. I am saying FF10's gameplay is more fluid if you compare it to the others. I repeat, I am not talking about graphics at all. I did not even mention FF10-2 , btw.

I must say I hate the FF/DQ wars because they are very much opposites in term of everything else, both do not apply to every RPGamers public, and everyone who choses a side is limited in thought.

I am not chosing sides -- this is a silly thing. I am stating my taste here; i don't have to like all the crap that is out there just because they are RPG. If having a taste is being limited in thought, then , yeah, i am like this.

 

[Pierrot]

^^; oh no, I was only mentioning that I like FF10-2.

But the menus -are- the battle system, I'd like to know what you see as nonfluid and fluid, I really want to understand =).

Ah, but isn't seeing the quality of a work by your taste, choosing a side?