Would M+M still be famous?

Discussion in '-polls-' started by khyber, Oct 31, 2005.

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Would M+M still be famous if they were still active?

  1. Are you kidding me!? People are still listening to their music even when they are currently in "hiat

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  2. Yeah... But I think people won't go for their VK thing anymore and maybe get an image change... Look

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  3. People would still love them but maybe not as much as before, think micheal jackson

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  4. Nah, People are gonna find them old. I mean youth is money!

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  5. Malice whaa?? Is that some kind of softdrink?

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  1. khyber -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:15 am

    I mean just something I think some people would like to find out. Would they still be popular if they were still active?
     
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  2. Susan -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:13 am

    I think they would still be a bit popular. But I agree that perhaps they would not have the same image as before. I don't think they'd throw VK out the window like I hear that Dir en grey has, but I think that they're image would be DIFFERENT. Maybe a little toned down...? More goth, less lolita. :lol:

    I dunno. I have no idea. This could all be wishful thinking. Heh.
     
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  3. khyber -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:40 am

    I was also thinking the same thing. Maybe the image change is my best bet if ever they were still active. If that were the case would mana still cross dress? ehehehe. I've seen mana wear guy clothes and it looks better on him. The only thing I'm worried about is that they might lose their uniqueness and probably go mainsteam. That's just my hypothesis.
     
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  4. Susan -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:52 am

    khyber wrote:
    At least they'd still be around! :lol: Honestly, I'd like to hear what "mainstream" Malcie Mizer would sound like post-Gackt, with Klaha or another vocalist. I think no matter what they might've done, it still would have been unique. :cool:

    Mana right now, to me, is doing *less* or milder cross-dressing in M10M. He's a bit more goth and little less lolita (like I said before :lol:), in my opinion at least. So maybe... just MAYBE, MM would be toning down their crazy styles too?

    Hope, dreams, maybe's... this is tuff we'll never know for sure. Ah well.
     
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  5. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 10:56 am

    My response: by the time they disbanded, I don't think MM was really that famous anyway. They hadn't been major for a couple years, and didn't even break 20th place on the indies charts with any of their Klaha releases. :?
     
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  6. khyber -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:24 am

    If ever they are gonna lift the "hiatus", I hope that their solo careers taught them a thing or two and dish out new stuff that's worth buying a whole album for. I can't believe what the world would be like if ever they are gonna come back... I mean THE RISKS involved in doing so disturbs me like the possibility of destroying their unique image into something... plain! or OR WORST people won't even notice them anymore!! M+M cults are gonna experience armageddon and former fangirls ripping their mizer costumes to tiny shreds of cloth and piles of stardust while crying over a merveilles mana poster!!! The new drummer will go under the same name Kami and shall suck as hell. Kami fans will do the previous drummer a favor and commit seppuku in synchrony around his gravestone!

    *Wheeze!* pant* pant*

    ::blowup:: NOOO!!!

    okay....relax... your losing it!! :shock:
     
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  7. Camuflagem -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:38 pm

    Are you asking these questions based on overseas fanbase or japanese one?
     
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  8. Tastes Like Future -pretty in pink- pretty in pink

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:13 pm

    I think one of the reasons they are so popular is because they have broken up. (or on hiatus)
     
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  9. Dix Infernal -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:44 pm

    I voted definately yes. Why?

    Because they were completely different. Even compared to the other VK bands of the time (and now)- no one was like Malice Mizer. They were original and creative in a a way that no one but Mana could ever be. Look at it this way- who else makes a sound like that besides Mana? No one.(But maybe my hearings just impaired.... ;)) No one makes a sound quite like the 'Malice Mizer' sound. Even M10M is different- similiar yes, but different all the same. No one before or after has ever made a sound like Malice Mizer....and no one ever will. They'll be unique forever; they made sure of that.

    And yes, I realize that they weren't number one hits or anything when they went on 'hiatus,' but that's not what I care about. What matters to me is that they were still unique, and that they had 'evolved' into something that would have been totally wonderful if they had continued.

    And, @ khyber: There is no way that a new drummer would be officially allowed into the band, let alone take the name of Kami. Mana, Kozi and Yu~ki would never let it slide. You really think that they'd disrespect their friend like that? :roll: No, I didn't think so.

    I really don't care if they'd be popular. I'd rather listen to obscure wonderfullness then popular crap. And besides, Mana is in the band...the day he goes mainstream, hell will freeze over and Morning Monsume will become canabalistic devils bent on world domination. :evil:

    (That's a rather scary thought actually.... :shock: *runs from Morning Monsume*)
     
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  10. Camuflagem -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:03 pm

    not everything that is popular is bad...there are many mainstream bands that are good. just wanted to say this, nothing personal. :P
     
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  11. shinzo -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:34 pm

    I took the first option, as flowers said ona larger scale hoem scale i think that thier popularity wouldnbt be that great anymore. But on the terms of an international fanbase i think many of thier fans would love to see them back in any shape or form.
     
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  12. devil_usagi -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 6:40 pm

    I think that they would still be pretty popular, as they have their old fans and new ones are always coming along. In accordance to youth wanting something new, a lots of teens like to listen to the oldies, so even if Malice Mizer was placed under that caratogy they would have that fan group, and also I think that a lot of fans new to Jrock and VK would start off by gravitating todawrds their style as it is so "Whow", I've known a fair few people to at first dismiss singers such as Miyavi, groups such as Dir en Grey and Schwarz Stein (even though that is more of an aquired taste, heh), but they have been taken aback by Malice Mizer listened to the majority of their songs and then slowly moved onto other groups but still remain faithful to Malice Mizer.

    Also a lot of people tend to say "WHA! They've slip up! No fair! No fair! I love their music...."

    *rambles on a bit more* >.<

    Sorry if I don't make much sence, my english writen comunication skills are appauling.

    Sorry
    Devil Usagi
     
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  13. Formless -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:30 pm

    flowersofnight wrote:
    What flowers said. Malice was unique, but it's not like they left any sort of impact on Japan.
     
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  14. khyber -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:19 pm

    Dix Infernal wrote:
    You took that seriously!? heheheh I already know they would never do that to their blood relative by using the same name but you'll never know if they would get a new drummer. That said, I also think they might have a hard time looking for a drummer as great as Kami. Even his drumset was thought of as something too much to handle because of its lowness and its lack of space but Kami was able to pull it all off.

    I was just so caught up in the moment of them making huge mistakes that I partially overdid this one! hehehehe. ;) I went back to the "Secret World of Malice Mizer" and read the whole story again. It was kinda nice to read about their lives when they started from scratch and made it bigtime. :D I think if you really put your heart into things that you aspire to achieve then nothing is really impossible. I mean they used to sell their own tapes in front of music stores! Gotta love their effort! I trully miss them... :cry:

    BTW since were talking about malice mizer. I don't want to see that "they will return in 2006/2007" spam. It brings up false and unsure hopes even mine to be honest. so let's make this talk constructive as much as possible. :)
     
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  15. Susan -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:45 pm

    Dix Infernal wrote:
    I do agree that there will never be another Kami. that's just silly. :P But I think MM might've eventually brought a new, official drummer. Sure, Kami would have always remained an "Eternal Blood Relative" but I don't think he would have expected them to rely on a support drummer forever. I think if MM were still around, they'd have a drummer as a full member by now.

    Just my opinion, though.
     
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  16. Elec -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:51 pm

    I agree with Flowers and Kaz. I actually think the schtick would have gotten old.
     
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  17. khyber -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:52 pm

    Susan I already said that I wasn't being serious. I know my M+M background well enough to say that. hehehehe I would've rhymed it all off like I did in other polls but I wasn't feeling the rythm. maybe people would agree with me that if ever that may happen kami fans might commit seppuku around his gravestone. hehehehe :lol:

    (Maybe I should put up a less serious looking avatar :P )
     
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  18. Susan -member- -member-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 8:59 pm

    No no, I got that you weren't serious, khyber. :lol: I con't see how anyone could take a comment like that seriously. :roll:
     
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  19. faith -tea party- -tea party-

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    Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 9:31 pm

    khyber wrote:
    Nah, it's too pretty. Just stick google eyes on it.
     
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  20. Dix Infernal -member- -member-

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    Posted: Tue Nov 1, 2005 4:29 pm

    khyber wrote:
    Umm...was that at me? Cuz, I didn't bring it up.... :?

    And besides, that's been discussed so many times, and 2006 is around Gackt's tenth anniversary in the music business I believe, so it has nothing to do with MM as far as I know... :)
     
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