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OMG Virginia Woolf literary news ::meev::

"Platform plaque commemorates Woolf's journey to win his bride"
According to the Frome Standard, money is being raised to establish one of England's famous blue plaques at the Frome Railway Station in southern England to commemorate "the journey Leonard Woolf made traveling from Frome to London on Thursday, Jan. 11, 1912, to propose marriage to Virginia Stephen." Blue plaques are permanent signs that appear throughout the United Kingdom and serve as markers of historical interest to indicate the homes and workplaces of famous people.

From the Frome Standard:
"A PLAQUE is to be put on the platform of Frome Railway Station commemorating the journey Leonard Woolf made travelling from Frome to London on Thursday, January 11, 1912, to propose marriage to Virginia Stephen.

Leonard was staying at the Rectory, Great Elm, with his friend the Rev Douglas Campbell, when he telegraphed Virginia and the following day, took the 10.59am train from Frome Station to London Paddington and asked her to become his wife.

The outcome of this journey was so significant, not just to the two people involved, but to the worlds of publishing, 20th century literature and international politics that a group of people calling themselves the Woolf Plaque Supporters feel it deserves commemorating."
In August 1912 Virginia married Leonard and thus began one of the most fruitful partnerships of the 20th century. During nearly 30 years of marriage they wrote novels, among them Leonard's The Village in the Jungle, The Wise Virgins, and Virginia's literary genius emerged with the writing of Mrs Dalloway, To The Lighthouse, Orlando and The Waves, literary criticism, including A Room of One's Own a landmark in feminist writing, book reviews, political books, including International Relations, 1916 which strongly influenced The League of Nations, political journalism, diaries, collected letters and biographies as well as founding and running the ground-breaking Hogarth Press.

They shared the same values and ideals, obsession with work, simplicity of living and disregard for money. This is the partnership the origins of which lay in that historic train journey from Frome Station.
Omg of course I'm going to donate OF COURSE and I already emailed the organization and even Leonard's nephew asking how I can donate sfdsidsjfosdijfsasfdoisfisuff. I can't believe he started that journey on my birthday!!

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I just think it's such a different idea. Normally those things are for events like, "This person was born here" or "This person died here," but this is for when Leonard went on his way to propose to MY FAVORITE WRITER!!!11111 ::squee:: They met in their early 20s but then he left for Ceylon and reunited like ten years later, good God. He was such a cool guy too and I can't believe they're actually making a plaque for this omg this is too cuuuuute brb *explodes*.
 

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Finished lately: "The Short Prajnaparamita Texts" translated by E. Conze

Currently: Jules Verne's "Le tour du monde en 80 jours"

Maybe next:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/143844849X
I'm trying to kick the Amazon habit, but they do come up with interesting recommendations every now and then.
 

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Finished w/ Jules Verne, currently reading "La querelle du Cid"
In which Pierre Corneille wrote a really arrogant letter to someone who wanted him to write song lyrics, and then a horde of haters started picking apart every line of "Le Cid" ::meev:: This was like the 17th-century equivalent of getting 4chan mad at you or something XD
 

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flowersofnight wrote:
Finished w/ Jules Verne, currently reading "La querelle du Cid"
In which Pierre Corneille wrote a really arrogant letter to someone who wanted him to write song lyrics, and then a horde of haters started picking apart every line of "Le Cid" ::meev:: This was like the 17th-century equivalent of getting 4chan mad at you or something XD
Song lyrics? No wonder he was pissed off, when he was considered the best playwright by the Sun King himself! Arrogance was a must at court anyway (if you never saw it, I warmly recommend you watch "Ridicule", possibly Patrice Leconte's best film).
Found this on the subject of "la querelle du Cid" : "une pièce qui restera malgré les corrections de l'auteur la plus grande tragi-comédie du répertoire français". Hands down if you ask me! A masterpiece.
 

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Got in for late-Xmas: "Morphic Resonance" by Rupert Sheldrake.
There's a recommendation from Deepak Chopra on the cover, which ought to calibrate your LOL meter right from the get-go ::meev::

Currently working my way through this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0323222757
And then about a million other things ::batsu::
 

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flowersofnight wrote:
Currently working my way through this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0323222757
And then about a million other things ::batsu::
The cover looks kinda cute like a PamyuPamyu album cover ::meev::

I'm still slowly making my way through the Wheel of Time series and currently on volume 3. It's good when stuff happens, but there are long stretches of various groups of characters just standing around on boats talking.
 

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Finished with "Morphic Resonance", "Bioinformatics Algorithms" and a few other miscellaneous things. Next up: BOOK CLUB ::batsu::

sailorka picked first: "Orlando" by Virginia Woolf.
I get to pick second, so I've got to give as good as I get XD It has to be a novel, and something I haven't already read. I think I need to pick something really MANLY to balance out that chick lit. ::foot::
 

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The Guin Saga IV: Prisoner of the Lagon: The paperbacks have illustrations and the hardbacks don't for some reason despite costing twice as much. Anyway, it's cleared up the "mask" thing, his head basically *is* a leopard head.
Unfortunately, it seems the monkey-people will be sticking around for the whole arc. I kind of want them to lose even though they're the "good guys" because I don't like anthropomorphic animals. The Mongauli (human) army is just cooler.
 

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sailorka picked first: "Orlando" by Virginia Woolf.
We're finishing up with "Orlando" and I have to say that was a pretty large disappointment. If not for the fact that it's a historical curiosity for a woman to be writing about what it's like to be a woman, I don't think anyone would read this book at all. Like yeah, Virginia Woolf was a skilled writer and had a way with words, and even occasionally displayed a sense of humor, but in the final reckoning I just never cared about Orlando the character.
The country of England was just as much of a protagonist, but as a boorish American, I don't know enough about British history to say whether the way VW portrayed Merrie Olde England getting de-souled by Victorian modernity has any basis in reality XD It was hard to tell how much of that was magical realism, how much editorializing, and how much straight-up factual information.
Also, apparently the whole thing was a huge Bloomsbury Group in-joke about the personal life of one of Virginia's lovers, so maybe it was better if you knew the people in question.

Also, we were all having conniptions over the ludicrous racism ::meev:: I'm not usually the type to get the vapors over that sort of thing, but the chapter with the gypsies was pretty over-the-top XD

Anyway, next up is my selection: "The Maltese Falcon".
 

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I'm reading Berserk, which is kind of like the Game of Thrones of manga, complete with a lazy author unlikely to finish writing the story in their lifetime.

The most recent chapter was released 3 years ago, and he allegedly has 15 more volumes planned... ::ash:: ::ash:: ::ash::

The artwork is fantastic though, if you can get past all the monsters having mouths that look like vaginas and penis-like appendages. Large armies in full armor, detailed backgrounds on every page, and the aforementioned monsters definitely get the job done as far as being completely disgusting.
 

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I'm reading... Virginia Woolf in Manhattan by Maggie Gee. I know, I can't believe it either that this is a real thing. It's like a fangirl's dream come true.

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The author will be at the conference so I thought I'd read it now and have her sign it! I got it for Christmas. It's written from the POV of Virginia, Angela, and Angela's daughter Gerda. Angela has a soon-to-be-ex-husband named Edward. It starts off with Angela, a famous writer, traveling to NYC to go to the New York Public Library to do Woolf research and the library has VW's manuscripts! I live here and I didn't even know that! She's doing research for an upcoming conference in Istanbul. (She and Virginia will go there later in the book and I think Virginia hooks up with a Turk--stay tuned.)

As she's reading all of a sudden Virginia Woolf materializes in the library and Angela can't believe it. Virginia Woolf has come to the 21st century!
First thing VW wants to do is call Leonard and Angela has to tell her that Leonard has long been dead.

It's interesting how we treat authors after they die. Virginia, in the book, has no idea that we (whoever wants to read about her) know about nearly EVERYTHING of her personal life, her diaries are public, letters, love life, illnesses, childhood, how she treated servants, how much she earned, her daily habits, etc.
For example, Angela showed Virginia The Google and Virginia asked Angela if she can see Leonard through there. Angela looks up Leonard on Google Images and Virginia says, "Mongoose." Angela is spooked by how she actually knows Virginia and Leonard's petnames for each other.

The book does a good job of illustrating the frustrations of having an author come back many years later. Virginia doesn't know much about any of the technology (this is a lot of fun), changed fashions, and she's wondering where all her friends are. Not only that, but because she killed herself she's full of guilt that she has this new chance to ponder why exactly she did that while she can't change the situation. She's also relieved to know that people still read her because that was one of her fears, that her books were failures.

(When I was little I wrote about what it would be like if Zhuge Liang came to the 21st century...)

Angela is also wondering if it's all a dream, but she takes care of Virginia (who obviously has no money) and she just can't believe that VIRGINIA WOOLF IS HERE IN THE FLESH! PINCH ME I'M DREAMING! I know it kind of sounds like a fanfiction, but their conversations about all sorts of things and inner thoughts are interesting and there is a plot.

Virginia's always thinking of something and taking it all in. She's also a bit spoiled and as Angela says, is used to servants, but who cares, she's COOL. Virginia is kind of all over the place, feeling guilty about Leonard, reminiscing, evaluating Angela, thinking about New York, etc.

I don't love Angela as a character, haha. The only reason I don't care for her is that she feels she has "one up" over Virginia because at least she has a daughter and Virginia had no children. Wow, how lame of her! She even admits that it's shallow of her to think that way, but she still thinks that way. Gross. ::hora::

I noticed she also has some insecurities and may be even jealous of Virginia. She thinks of how Virginia never went to university (while Angela has several degrees, both earned and honorary), but was thought to be the cleverest woman in the country and has written masterpieces. She thinks of how Virginia was born privileged. She also noticed how much Virginia and Leonard loved each other and how that reflects back on her own marriage to Edward. Example:
'Are you an acquaintance of my husband's?'
'I've heard of him. Everyone has.'
And her long, almost equine face relaxed. Those mournful, haunted eyes sparkled, her full lips lifted in a sweet, shy smile. Yes, a chalice of happiness. 'Do you think so? Mr. Woolf will be amused to know that.'
You love him still, I thought with pain, pain for her and then for me -- Edward said he loved me, but he still walked out. Had I ever been loved as Virginia was?
Deep, bro. She actually asks, "Would she somehow always make me feel like a failure?" Angela also feels insecure about her writing. Although she's won prizes she wants to be a *part* of literature, like Virginia.

I'm only about a quarter of the way through so there's a lot more adventure in store. I opened the book at a random part and they go to Istanbul and I'm pretty sure... VIRGINIA WOOLF HAS SEX WITH A TURK! If I was writing about Virginia Woolf I donno if I'd go there with my creativity. It seems out of character, but at the same time, it's sort of believable. I also don't know how the story ends or how VW goes back to the dead. Right now though, they're learning about each other and trying to make money by selling off books. Maybe Angela will learn how to be a better writer and get some big insights. They've gone to the Central Park Zoo!

I'm having fun especially because I live here and I can vividly see all the places they've gone to so far.

Overall, it's an easy and good book to read. Maybe only long-time Woolf nerds would appreciate it completely, mainly because of the references, but it's enjoyable even if you aren't well-acquainted.
 

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Book club finished with "Northanger Abbey", so next up is Camus' "L'etranger". My next book club pick needs to be something to counter all the pumpkin spice lattes and Murakami coming in the next round XD

Also finished with "Language Contact in Japan". Some interesting historical stuff in there, but most of it is things you probably already know on some level if you've studied a little Japanese.
 

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flowersofnight wrote:
PureElegance wrote:
I know it kind of sounds like a fanfiction
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I opened the book at a random part and they go to Istanbul and I'm pretty sure... VIRGINIA WOOLF HAS SEX WITH A TURK!
Virginia Woolf lemons, now I've heard it all. :|
We're best friends now! ::meev::

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She was so nice!

I'm almost done with the book. Virginia and Angela are in Istanbul sightseeing before the conference and Angela is getting on my nerves! Man, seriously, if Virginia Woolf came back to ME I would not be as rude or curt as Angela is!

She finds Woolf such a burden most of the time and is glued to her phone or is anxious. Woolf thinks that Angela needs more confidence and a sense of fun. Yeah, really. I'm not sure what Woolf is even doing "wrong" most of the time, but Angela is almost always grumpy.
(But I had to laugh when Woolf said that Angela could be so... "common" at times. Oh Lord.)

For example, everywhere they go Virginia always gets the attention and people are interested her. Angela (I think acting out of jealousy) keeps stealing her away or making some lame comment. Dude who is this woman. Then when Virginia makes a comment about what happened Angela says, "Virginia, don't be difficult." WTF

Angela is also kind of a terrible mother ::meev:: I mean, I know one can be busy, but I doubt Angela is SO busy that when her daughter Gerda writes her an email about being bullied that Angela replies with a, "I'm so glad you're having a great time at school!"

I haven't gotten to a sex scene yet, but we'll see...
 

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I finally finished "Virginia Woolf in Manhattan" and it was pretty good. At the end Angela gives a speech and I wasn't a fan of it because it seemed cornola and at some points anti-religion. What saved it for me was Virginia's speech (at her own conference!) and I felt that was really her.

I liked that Virginia said that even if she wasn't fortunate as she was she still would have written. And to remember not to be embarrassed to self-publish because nearly all of her books were. Sometimes one forgets that! And to keep writing as long as we are here on Earth. And other great things.

Something the novel pointed out was academics not liking creative novelists (especially those who attend conferences). I'm not sure if that's true. At the same time I did think at the conference that I'd rather create my own original work than dedicate my life analyzing other people's works. I guess a paper on a novel is an original work (I like doing those too), but I wondered to myself if they ever wanted to do their own separate thing. (Maybe they do already?)

I'm not sure if I understand the ending. I don't think it was one of those, "Oh, it was all a dream!" things since they're all there. But I liked it.

What shocked me was that Leonard was on the airplane and he walked down the hall and saw Virginia and he wept when he did. At that point I sat straight up in my chair and said, "What?????" I thought it was sweet and he called her darling and Virginia told him she's well again!

Me: ;_______;

I'm glad Maggie Gee wrote in the end how her French balcony sex scene between L and V was her own invention. When I read that short description I thought, "Is there a source for this? Did this actually happen?? ::batsu::" Maybe it did, but we'll never know for sure, she even says how we never know what goes on between two people.

It was a fun book to read, and Virginia was portrayed very well here and you felt as though she actually did come back. Angela's still a kook, but at the end she gets better. I get annoyed with her and her lameness, but I feel like I need to put up with her, as if she were a close relative? XD

Anyway, next reads:

Chinese Demystified (I have to brush up!)
"Strong Poison" by Dorothy L. Sayers

"Mystery novelist Harriet Vane knew all about poisons, and when her fiance died in the manner prescribed in one of her books, a jury of her peers had a hangman's noose in mind. But Lord Peter Wimsey was determined to prove her innocent --as determined as he was to make her his wife."
OH DANG. I read Sayers' "Clouds of Witness" back in a special Humanities class in high school (I value the humanities) and I really liked it! There were all these twists and I had no idea of the truth until the end and it also had me thinking deeply about certain things (one reason why her series is a classic). One of the professors at the Woolf conference spoke about Sayers and I remembered how much I enjoyed it! Afterwards I told the professor I read Clouds of Witness and she was all excited!

The series is about Lord Peter Wimsey, English aristocrat and amateur sleuth, solving cases for fun because he's just that cool. But he's not silly or uncomplicated. There was also the great manservant Bunter. Sayers stopped writing the series once WWII broke out.

I would recommend the series to anyone who enjoys short reads, a fun mystery, and it's from 1920s-1930s England so you know it's going to be well written, will be a bit satirical, and have all these little English things in them, evoking that time period. :grin:

While many detective novelists form the Golden Age of mystery kept their plots pared down to the requisite crime, suspects, clues, and red herrings, Sayers did not limit herself to so narrow a canvas in her work. She saw the crime and its ensuing investigation as merely the framework for a much larger story--the skeleton... Sayers, in short, did what I call "taking no prisoners" in her approach to the detective novel. She did not write down to her readers; rather, she assumed that her readers would rise to her expectations of them.

I found in her novels a richness that I had not previously seen in detective fiction. I became absorbed in the careful application of detail that characterized her plots, whether she was educating me about bell-ringing in The Nine Tailors, the unusual use of arsenic in Strong Poison, or the beauties of architectural Oxford in Gaudy Night. She wrote about everything from cryptology to vinology, making unforgettable that madcap period between the wars that marked the death of an overt class system and heralded the beginning of an insidious one.

What continues to be remarkable about Sayers' work, however, is her willingness to explore the human condition. The passions felt by characters created eighty years ago are as real today as they were then. The motives behind people's behavior are no more complex now than they were in 1923, when Lord Peter Wimsey took his first public bow. Times have changed, rendering Sayer's England in so many ways unrecognizable today's reader. But one of the true pleasures inherent to picking up a Sayers novel now is to see how the times in which we live alter our perceptions of the world around us while doing nothing at all to alter the core of our humanity.

As successive generations of readers welcome her into their lives, they embark upon an unforgettable journey with an even more unforgettable companion. In time of dire and immediate trouble, one might well call upon a Sherlock Holmes for a quick solution to one's trials. But for the balm that reassures one about surviving the vicissitudes of life, one could do no better than to anchor onto a Lord Peter Wimsey.

Aw!
 

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Picked up a bunch of stuff this weekend, and the first on the docket was:
"Tintin au Congo" by Herge. Leaving aside the absurd racism of the whole thing, I'm not sure why Tintin has a quasi-religious following in Europe. It was all right, but not revelatory.

I laughed at the part where he drills a hole in a rhino and blows it up with dynamite, but that'd probably never in a million years make it past the censors today ::meev::
 

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I rather liked Tintin, even though it was always full of clichés and often clearly racist. I don't know why but the first few words of "Tintin en Amérique" got stuck in my head until today. It went "A Chicago où règnent en maîtres des bandits de toute espèce...".

Astérix was less dated and much more fun. :P
 

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"A Chicago où règnent en maîtres des bandits de toute espèce...".
It's as true today as it was then XD I think every living ex-governor of Illinois is currently doing time in the same federal prison ::meev::
 

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I'm reading "The Little Prince" which I'd always heard about but never read. Found a brand-new looking copy at a thrift store for pennies, so that was pretty cool. It's a cute book.

I'm also on volume 4 in the Wheel of Time, I don't remember if I posted that update yet. xD I've since collected up through volume 10 in my thrift store hunting, so I'm covered on reading material for the next few years.
 
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