navate wrote:
Perhaps my perception on this isn't accurate, as I live in the US in an area where only myself listens to a lot of VK, but... about 90% of the "goths" I know/see are posers, doing it because it's "cool" and it pisses off their parents.
The goth scene here in Europe is quite different from what you have in the US. (No wonder the really good US goth bands (Cinema Strange for example) are a lot more popular here.) Of course there are also a lot of people here who are only into goth, coz it's cool and such, but there are people like that everywhere and in every subculture. However still, for the majority of the people in the European scene it is not just some passing fad, but a lifestyle and they do not dress black and read Lovecraft and such coz they think it's what a goth supposed to do, but coz that's what feels natural for them.
But yeah, nowadays it is not really easy to define what's goth and what's not, I mean.. just go to WGT and beside the typical goth bands you will see a lot of different things, but still you won't feel they are out of place (even acts like Needle Sharing). And there are the goths, the industrial peepz, the fetish/SM addicts, the metal-heads, the medieval people, the neofolk fans, and so on.. and even tho they are so different it all fits together perfectly and it feels like one big happy family. I think what keeps the European scene alive and so lively is the diversity and that over the years the people from the once separated and different subcultures learned to except eachother and live together.
And about EoD vs vk.. I think what really drove them over the edge is how some of the vk fans act in their gigs... screaming mindlessly, stealing guitar-picks, grabbing Közi during a gig and not letting him go, without noticing that he can't even play if he is being dragged around like that, being hysterical about not getting autographs and so on. Beside being hellova annoying this also gives the band a quite bad reputation and there are some places where they weren't invited coz the organizers did not want the ruin the festival's atmosphere with EoD's audience. (like they did at That Spring)
Of corz there are a lot of nice people amongst the vk fans (usually the ones who got into it thru other music styles and as a result a lot more open-minded) but unfortunately the really loud ones are the ones that are so damn annoying.
I haven't seen that tv-inetrview that was mentioned earlier (haven't even heard about it before actually) so I have no idea who said what there, but I really doubt it was supposed to sound like Közi putting vk or even his past with Malice down.
From what I see, I feel he is trying to get away from the shadow of Malice following him everywhere and I guess he is fed up that even after so many years some people still only go to his gigs, coz he was in Malice once and not for what he is doing now. Like how Bela Lugosi was trying to run away from the Dracula role or Doyle was trying to kill Sherlock Holmes. If there is something in your past that drags you back again and again you may even grow to hate it, no matter how great it was while it lasted. Of corz this is just how I see and interpret these things, so it might or might not be close to the actual truth.
