Kalmia (The Music of Kalm)

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  1. Wandering_Fox -current- -current-

    Wandering_Fox
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    Posted: Thu Jun 5, 2014 7:02 pm

    I figured since this isn't Velvet Eden, Kalmia deserved it's own thread.

    Last night, Kalm announced a new EP (4 tracks) to be released sometime in the future and presented a new song, "Body Trade". You can demo it now on his official Soundcloud, seaofcat d(^__^) You can also download it from his Bandcamp site. Lucky you!

    He also released a download only EP, "Choose/Palm" (it only cost $3 for the 2 songs), as well as a free download of Silk, with him on vocals. You can get them right here from Bandcamp.

    (An interesting note, this site says the song "Silk" is from a promotional cassette tape, "Marionette/Silk". The music to this "Silk" is the same as the Velvet Eden version, but the lyrics have been drastically changed and are sung by Kalm.)

    He also said not long ago that people keep asking him for old Kalmia music but he has no plans right now to release or sell them. It looks like he's pretty intent on just moving forward.

    He's really nice on Facebook; people who use it should friend him. He uses Social Media correctly :cool:
     
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  2. Madmoiselle_Silk -night vision- night vision

    Madmoiselle_Silk
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 4:23 am

    The lyrics aren't the same for Silk though, almost but there's some parts different.
    Also, he said to most of us that he didn't want to sell the old demo songs, but in fact he did offer a very limited of people to buy all of his discography for a VERY big amount. I asked him about it and he now said he regret the high price, so now he feels like he can't sell them at all, because it would be unfair to lower the price. ::hora::
     
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  3. Wandering_Fox -current- -current-

    Wandering_Fox
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 11:34 am

    Madmoiselle_Silk wrote:
    I just checked and you're right, the vocal lines are pretty much the same but the lyrics are almost completely different o_O

    I kneel before you,
    why are you laughing at me?
    I feel myself losing you,
    and still you ridicule me?

    Softly, just like this,
    like the moment of birth,
    Everything gently
    Gives itself unto the silk
    Just let me sleep

    I'm so cold and worn out
    And still you laugh at me?

    Softly, just like this,
    like the moment of birth,
    Everything gently
    Gives itself unto the silk
    Just let me sleep

    Yeah, I heard in the past people were able to buy older songs, but I translated a message for him recently saying he had no current plans to sell or release any older songs. I don't even know how many songs/releases are in the Kalmia discography, but it would be awesome to know more :)
     
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 12:21 pm

    Madmoiselle_Silk wrote:
    How much did he want? ::meev::

    I listened to "Body Trade" and it was all right, but I'm not sure I'd buy the EP.
     
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  5. Madmoiselle_Silk -night vision- night vision

    Madmoiselle_Silk
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 1:34 pm

    He sold them for 300$
     
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  6. heutre -member- -member-

    heutre
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 1:56 pm

    KALMIA Project

    1st Mastertape

    1. Exclamation
    2. Comical Tragedy
    3. Waist Hunting
    4. Asian Creek
    5. Jewel
    6. Christ
    7. Broken
    8. Delusion
    9. Mind Dance (take 1)
    10. Rise & Fall
    11. Fever
    12. Perverse Man
    13. Older than East
    14. Mind Dance (Take 2)
    15. Crime
    16. In Your Eyes

    2nd Mastertape

    1. Older than East
    2. Dive
    3. Fever
    4. Mind Dance (take 2)
    5. In Your Eyes
    6. 生と死 (Take 2)
    7. Murder
    8. Ceremony
    9. Mary
    10. Mirror
    11. Moonrise
    12. 赤と黒
    13. Fiction
    14. Silk
    15. Marionette

    Known Kalmia releases (In chronological order)

    Kalmia

    1. 生と死
    2. Murder
    3. Ceremony
    4. Mary

    Obelisk

    1. Mirror
    2. Moonrise
    3. 赤と黒
    4. Fiction

    Thalidomide in Bedroom

    1. Intro
    2. More
    3. Plastic Brain
    4. 禁じられた花
    5. Murder (take 2)
    6. Outro

    Silk/Marionette

    1. Silk
    2. Marionette


    Two other tapes exist, but they seemed to be untitled.
     
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  7. heutre -member- -member-

    heutre
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 2:03 pm

    Oh and yes, I bought the discography in December last year but don't think Kalm asked that much for it, I actually offered it on the first message I sent him. Oh and he didn't offer to sell it to me, I asked him personally. It's probably ridiculous for some/most but I had (and still have) deep respect for his art and I didn't want to offer him something insulting. He didn't release some songs in the mastertapes as well, so the exclusivity made it even more worth it. I wish he didn't feel that way, I think i'll send him a message later this week, it's his material and I don't regret at all paying that price :).
     
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  8. faith -tea party- -tea party-

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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 2:18 pm

    Oh I'm not particularly liking the new song unfortunately.

    And gabespf, I disagree with what you just said. Material exclusivity makes things silly, not special! And it makes the people who value that exclusivity snobs. It's the reason ugly stuff like oligarchies and exploitation still exist.

    It's too bad he can't sell his stuff anymore. Perhaps he could try to contact the buyers and reimburse them some of the cost. If that's not an option, then I find his decision respectful.
     
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  9. heutre -member- -member-

    heutre
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 2:21 pm

    Can someone translate this in japanese please? So it's as clear as possible :

    Hello KALM^^

    I am active on a japanese music forum and yesterday someone made a post about KALMIA songs not being available because you didn't want to release them because you felt I had payed a high price and you didn't feel it was fair to lower the price. But I just want to tell you : It's completely okay ! I already knew the demotapes were originally 1000 yens, I was aware from the beginning that the price was higher than what usual fans used to pay and it's okay by me ^^ I actually wanted to support you the most that I could. So please if that is the reason you haven't any sold any songs please don't worry. I was actually very interested in doing a remake and cover of your song "In Your Eyes" and I didn't know if I could or not since you asked for exclusivity so I think it would even make me happier if you did sell those songs.

    Have a nice day ~
     
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  10. Madmoiselle_Silk -night vision- night vision

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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 2:25 pm

    I think more people than you would've payed for those songs though...
     
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  11. heutre -member- -member-

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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 2:32 pm

    faith wrote:
    Oh I'm sorry, I think I didn't explain myself properly. When I was talking about exclusivity I was talking about the songs in the KALMIA project that he had never released, even in the old days. What I meant to say is that it made it even more worth it since some songs I could have only acquired directly from him.

    But it's probably very contradictory with my old internet posts, because I was a very huge exclusivity snob haha.

    The other person that Leila talks about that had the songs as well was very present in my life and because we were around so often she could listen to them as well. As far as I know, except us two, nobody has the KALMIA discography. So I think i'm the only main obstacle, I hope that he reconsiders again ! Some songs are so inspiring to the point that I consider them masterpieces : Mind Dance Take 1, In Your Eyes, Asian Creek, Ceremony, Mary.

    Anyways, I hope one day most fans will have the possibility to hear at least one of those. Thalidomide in Bedroom in HQ is amazing as well.
     
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    Posted: Fri Jun 6, 2014 2:35 pm

    I know Koeism tried to buy them as well often but he didn't have the funds to do so, so he told me KALM never said yes. I think the possibilities of somebody else except me buying them are quite low (since the price was relatively high). But you are right I have no certainty (but I still highly doubt it).
     
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  13. otterley -member- -member-

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    Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:01 pm

    He is actually selling the discography for anyone who wants it. An acquitance of mine told me he was selling it and I have asked, the price still in $300.

    I think it is worth for anyone that is a REAL fan of his work, even if it just some mp3 (or wave, I don't know) it is the only way to get it.
     
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  14. Wandering_Fox -current- -current-

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    Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:38 pm

    He said on his Facebook page that the music isn't for sale and he has no plans to release older tracks ^^;

    Kalm wrote:
    I think it's interesting that very few of the Kalmia tracks I've heard sound like the music he sells commercially with Kaya, Dada, etc...

    He composed music for a yoga commercial recently, that was pretty nifty :)
     
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    Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:02 pm

    Wandering_Fox wrote:
    The lady with the short red and black hair is his wife, Asami Yamada Minamiura. :)
     
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  16. Wandering_Fox -current- -current-

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    Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:13 pm

    MissUMana wrote:
    Really?? Wow! I didn't even know that! Thanks, that's a really interesting tidbit!

    The more you know, right? :cool:
     
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    Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:54 pm

    I'm not comfortable with watching the camera ogle Kalm's wife :lol:
     
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    Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:47 am

    flowersofnight wrote:
    I showed this video to some friends last night and they were commenting on some of the more awkward shots as well ^^;

    But we all like the song a lot, and I just minimize the video when I listen anyway. It's not really the kind of music I'd associate with Yoga, but it's an awesome track =D
     
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  19. faith -tea party- -tea party-

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    Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:37 am

    They looked more like they were dying than doing yoga sometimes...
     
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    Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2014 12:30 pm

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