Mana as Producer - Mysterious Artist is revealed!

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The cellopart is beautiful but it doesn't fit the song.. That's what I ment. The rest of the song is empty. I love the voice and the cellopart.
 

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I love cellos, and violins. But I've never played, probably because I would end up hating them... the last instrument that I played was.... Uh, I think it was the clarinete. I failed miserable though.
 

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Berserk wrote:
The song needs more cello and less of everything else.
Yeah, my initial fear was that he would under/poorly utilize the cello, and that's pretty much been realized. The solo in the middle of the song, though everyone seems to love it, is kind of awkward and demonstrates that he doesn't quite know how to compose for the cello.

Agreed.

Voice is still gorgeous
 

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Han'i wrote:
I love cellos, and violins. But I've never played, probably because I would end up hating them... the last instrument that I played was.... Uh, I think it was the clarinete. I failed miserable though.
I fail miserably at playing instruments too, just because I just don't have the patience and diligence to do that. I'd be excited about learning, buy a top quality instrument, and then a week later get too lazy to bother anymore. I've already failed the piano, so I figure I shouldn't get a violin.
 

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Berserk wrote:
EDIT: This is a good example of what a cello is capable of.

Thanks for posting that video! <3
That's one of my favorite Shostakovich arrangements. It has such hauntingly beautiful melodies. My absolute favorite of his work has to be the 1st movement of Op. 40 for Cello and Piano. I die every time.

edit: Just listen to it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9etnD-H ... re=related It's so gorgeous.
 

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I've never really listened to cello music before (I think), but those sound really good! Thanks.

random: Still Doll went from number ten on CDJapan's Daily CD ranking to number 4 in a few hours. ::shifty::
 

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When i listened a full song i just realised that this melody is very very simple. It seems that Mana just was too lazy to compose something more interesting. The beggining of the song is really nice, but it seems that beggining continues till the end. I mean, melody doesn't change at all. Actually it sounds well, but Mana, as a man who creates music for more than 15 years must create more interesting songs...
 

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Garnet in the Eden wrote:
I've never really listened to cello music before (I think), but those sound really good! Thanks.

random: Still Doll went from number ten on CDJapan's Daily CD ranking to number 4 in a few hours. ::shifty::

At the moment, it's on nr 2 ^^

I've ordered it^^ I like the song^^
 

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I really like this pv and song for many reasons, I think they sort of fulfill my expectations about Kanon and even surpasses them a little.
I can't believe some people are hinting that Mana has been "lazy to compose" *rolls eyes* As if he didn't take music seriously enough! come on guys...
I think he's experimenting, it's his first song for a female voice, and the result is quite nice.
 

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I think that Mana wanted something simple yet elegant, and I think he succeeded. It's mostly simple, yes, but simple doesn't mean lazy.

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I can't tell if that's supposed to be a praying mantis on the right of the cover like in the PV or a goat.
 

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As a debute single, it doesn't have to be a complex piece of music, I think. It has to be catchy, and I can say he definitely succeeded in that. I can't get it out of my head, and have been singing it for the past few days (for as far as I can) XD

As for the cello part, it did sound a little weird to me at first, and I'm not blown away by it. But it's okay, and I think it will become better in the future ^^
He just needs some time to experiment, I think.
 

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Berserk wrote:
The song needs more cello and less of everything else.
Yeah, my initial fear was that he would under/poorly utilize the cello, and that's pretty much been realized. The solo in the middle of the song, though everyone seems to love it, is kind of awkward and demonstrates that he doesn't quite know how to compose for the cello.
Agreed.

As it started I imagined how it would go on and I really liked my idea, but not so much his. Somehow I expected more of that.

Still, I like that song. And maybe they just need to test some things out and it will develop nicely =3
 

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The song is definitely catchy.
The music itself...and the "Hi Miss Alice"...XDD
It has been stuck in my head, and I have been singing the song for days......still not sick of it.

Well, I really Love the cello solo.
It gives me goosebump all the time.
Doesn't find it weird....
Its like....how do u put it? Umm..sudden change of feeling....so it catches your attention again.
 

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I like it because................. IT'S SO MALICE MIZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and she's just so beautiful xD


the only thing I "didn't like" is that it should have been more arranged, as the Bara no Seidou stuff ::gaku::
 

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Red Scarf wrote:
Berserk wrote:
She's easily the most skilled singer Mana has worked with
I think Gackt was, actually.
Lol, I forgot about Gackt... Yeah, I'd say Gackt is in the same league as Kanon. Besides him though, she's definitely at the top of Mana's list.
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Thanks for posting that video! <3
That's one of my favorite Shostakovich arrangements. It has such hauntingly beautiful melodies. My absolute favorite of his work has to be the 1st movement of Op. 40 for Cello and Piano. I die every time.

edit: Just listen to it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9etnD-H ... re=related It's so gorgeous.
Shostakovich makes the cello such a passionate, vivid instrument--he's really an awesome composer (which is why I picked one of his works as an example).

And thanks for that link! I had never heard that piece before.
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Berserk wrote:
The solo in the middle of the song, though everyone seems to love it, is kind of awkward and demonstrates that he doesn't quite know how to compose for the cello.
Agreed.

As it started I imagined how it would go on and I really liked my idea, but not so much his. Somehow I expected more of that.
That's really exactly how I felt. After listening a few times, I don't think it sounds so bad; but it should sound good the first time. The first time I listened to it I was like "what? No, not like that!"

But yeah, I really do think he'll get better at it. If he doesn't, then... oh well. Like elec has been saying, she's still a really great singer.
 

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idk, klaha had some intense operatic vocal talent.

:cool: But I'm sure you mean talent by popular standards and such.

edit: Btw, Garnet I.T.E.: I like your new avatar. :cool:
 

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Amatsu wrote:
idk, klaha had some intense operatic vocal talent.
Well, I'm talking about technical skill. I like the color of Klaha's voice more than Gackt's, but he doesn't have as much control and nuance as Gackt does; so even though I like Klaha more, I would have to give the prize over to Gackt anyway.

I like Tetsu way more than Gackt. Tetsu rocks my world. But he's horrible (and I mean way-absolutely-ungodly-omghow? horrible) with his breathing and phrasing :lol:

It doesn't make a difference on their recordings, but listen to his lives with Malice Mizer. He wears himself out, then takes huge gulps of air to compensate, and it throws off the rhythm of the vocal line, and it's pretty bad XP. But he's still my favorite.
 

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I'm not impressed by this song. I think the Kanon/Mana combo has great potentials of releasing amazing songs. I love Kanons singing and cello playing and Mana can write really awesome songs. But this is not one of those songs. I think it builds up a good mood but it doesn't take it further than that. As I said before it could fit good on an album, but it can't really stand on it's own.

But as I said it has potentials, so I'm keeping my hopes up til I hear the album.
 
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