Mana interview in Orkus Nr 2, February 2010

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monologue-de-chi wrote:
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monologue-de-chi wrote:
Dictionary
Mana - world's population

probably soon - never
very interesting - Fu**** boring
[How was the atmossphere at ________ ?]
very energetic - can't remember, but must have been good.
Otherwise I would remember.

LOOL xDDD sooo trueee!! :lol:

[Do you thinks visit our country ______ for a tour?]
I want go - probably in vacation


Great idea!!!!

I wanna go to as many as possible countries - I go where I am able to, not my pick though

[Do you like the fans in our country?] Of course - What do you think I am gonna say here, huh????

And a very bad one:
dix - pay my distun, pay XDDDDDDDDDDDD
(Mana, don't take this serious...., but the other ones are true, aren't they? xD lol)

I agree!!! xDDDDD "buy my stufff!!! xD", imagine in a DI or random concert, in the part of Inmortal Madness we'll scream "Love pay!" or "pay more" "buy my staff" etc LOL ::meev::
 

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Dix_Madness wrote:
I agree!!! xDDDDD "buy my stufff!!! xD", imagine in a DI or random concert, in the part of Inmortal Madness we'll scream "Love pay!" or "pay more" "buy my staff" etc LOL ::meev::
I really don't get all this "pay" and "buy my stuff". He never does A, B, C type releases, he hasn't done new merchandise in years and doesn't even do photo sets (which every litte crap band has and he could earn a fortune with, given how people seem to drool over his GLB pics). If you want to see expensive fandom ask Phantasmagoria or Versailles fans, M10M is comparatively cheap.
 

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Geisha wrote:
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I agree!!! xDDDDD "buy my stufff!!! xD", imagine in a DI or random concert, in the part of Inmortal Madness we'll scream "Love pay!" or "pay more" "buy my staff" etc LOL ::meev::
I really don't get all this "pay" and "buy my stuff". He never does A, B, C type releases, he hasn't done new merchandise in years and doesn't even do photo sets (which every litte crap band has and he could earn a fortune with, given how people seem to drool over his GLB pics). If you want to see expensive fandom ask Phantasmagoria or Versailles fans, M10M is comparatively cheap.

you right, forgive my stupid joke please
 

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Dix_Madness wrote:
you right, forgive my stupid joke please
Nothing personal, and certainly nothing against jokes, I just don't understand why this keeps coming up again and again, given that M10M are very reasonable in that regard.
 

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Geisha wrote:
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you right, forgive my stupid joke please
Nothing personal, and certainly nothing against jokes, I just don't understand why this keeps coming up again and again, given that M10M are very reasonable in that regard.

Yes, they are. Tickets for their 2007 Europe tour were quite cheap. And we must never forget they're not major. And their prices are Japanese prices, that is quite high for most of us.
 

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Yeah, I actually sometimes wonder how Mana's doing financially. There was a segment on NPR discussing how even bands like KISS are scrambling for creative sales gimmicks like selling portable hard drives with recordings of their concert immediately after the concert (a pretty cool idea, IMO) because otherwise they aren't earning enough money. Now, I'm assuming that by "enough" they mean "as much as when LPs/cassettes/CDs actually sold well, and we just expect no less now", but it makes me wonder how Mana is faring financially when his releases are so few and far between. His concert activity is relatively low too. I wonder if the SONY gig is partly motivated by $$$.

Even Lady GaGa says that, after her concerts and outfits are all put together and done with, she has no money leftover to save. Granted she spares no expense on her performances, but she's about as big as anyone can hope to be in the music industry :/
 

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Geisha wrote:
I really don't get all this "pay" and "buy my stuff". He never does A, B, C type releases, he hasn't done new merchandise in years and doesn't even do photo sets (which every litte crap band has and he could earn a fortune with, given how people seem to drool over his GLB pics). If you want to see expensive fandom ask Phantasmagoria or Versailles fans, M10M is comparatively cheap.
Fully agree with this. I'm glad Mana isn't trying to milk us with three different types of singles or other things.
The only thing that I can't agree that with is MonAmour and its never ending problems of sending issues or offering translations even though people pay. I don't know what's going on there though, maybe it has its reasons, but I would be glad if they got that back in order.


@Berserk
He owns a clothing label and a tiny music company, those add a bit of money, too. Maybe he somehow found a way to make enough money with that, maybe he is good at doing bank stuff and saving and therefore receives nice interest. Or maybe he has another small job running next to his Midi:Nette related business?
 

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Lardeen wrote:
The only thing that I can't agree that with is MonAmour and its never ending problems of sending issues or offering translations even though people pay. I don't know what's going on there though, maybe it has its reasons, but I would be glad if they got that back in order.

Yeah, I think the jokes stem from this and the stupid expensive prices of his clothes.
 

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For me it is just a running gag^^;;

I don't think he is that capitalistoc to us^^;;


I just had this in my mind:
eternalsociety.jpg
 

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i think it stems from the fact that japanese goods in general are expensive to overseas fans. ::erm::
 

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Berserk wrote:
Yeah, I actually sometimes wonder how Mana's doing financially. There was a segment on NPR discussing how even bands like KISS are scrambling for creative sales gimmicks like selling portable hard drives with recordings of their concert immediately after the concert (a pretty cool idea, IMO) because otherwise they aren't earning enough money. Now, I'm assuming that by "enough" they mean "as much as when LPs/cassettes/CDs actually sold well, and we just expect no less now", but it makes me wonder how Mana is faring financially when his releases are so few and far between. His concert activity is relatively low too. I wonder if the SONY gig is partly motivated by $$$.

Even Lady GaGa says that, after her concerts and outfits are all put together and done with, she has no money leftover to save. Granted she spares no expense on her performances, but she's about as big as anyone can hope to be in the music industry :/

Well He's got Moi dix Mois merchandise (for example there were 1,000 dixanadu ~fated raison d'etre~ EU dvd's for male and female and they were around £28 each soo x1000 = £28,000 approx (I have no idea how much of that he earns) and they all sold out realtively quickly), Moi-Meme-Moitie which is generally quite expensive clothing, so even if the materials are expensive he is bound to make quite a big profit. Money from the fanclub, meet and greet events (and more sales), not forgetting that he would probably get a few royalties from his MM days and he has a record company. Oh and sony! Sony are major so probably pay him a bit for his compositions and producing advice. Maybe the GLB pay him for the exclusivity of having the Moi-Meme-Moitie photoshoots as well?

So even though his releases are spaced apart, he's still making enough to get by.
 

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eMiNaTiC wrote:
i think it stems from the fact that japanese goods in general are expensive to overseas fans. ::erm::
Well, you can buy their European releases. They are cheaper than the Japanese version and even include the singles.

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Well He's got Moi dix Mois merchandise (for example there were 1,000 dixanadu ~fated raison d'etre~ EU dvd's for male and female and they were around £28 each soo x1000 = £28,000 approx (I have no idea how much of that he earns) and they all sold out realtively quickly), Moi-Meme-Moitie which is generally quite expensive clothing, so even if the materials are expensive he is bound to make quite a big profit. Money from the fanclub, meet and greet events (and more sales), not forgetting that he would probably get a few royalties from his MM days and he has a record company. Oh and sony! Sony are major so probably pay him a bit for his compositions and producing advice. Maybe the GLB pay him for the exclusivity of having the Moi-Meme-Moitie photoshoots as well?
M10M hasn't had any new merchandise in years, so he doesn't make money on that right now as most fans already have everything - including the CDs, so there is nothing to sell/buy ATM. M10M don't do any meet & greets, except occasionally abroad, which is less than once a year (AFAIK they didn't do any on their last Europe tour). I don't think he makes a big profit on Moitie because, as you say, the materials are expensive and the clothes are made in Japan, a country with comparatively high wages and therefore expensive production costs (many other lolita brands, e.g. BABY or Innocent World, are made in China), and in small quantities. I think the fact that he had to close several shops, including the main shop in Tokyo, is an indication of that, although the recession probably played a part too. I don't think he earns much money on the FC either, at least not on the international FC since you need to employ extra English speaking staff to run it. If having an international FC was profitable, I'm sure more bands would have jumped at the opportunity, like they jumped at international tours and record deals, but even much bigger and more popular bands, who presumably have more resources, haven't bothered with an FC. No idea how much he earns from his GLB work, but since their "renaissance" he gets fewer pages (2 instead of 4-6) and they are pushing Arika Takarano/ALI PROJECT instead.

Yes, he must still get royalties from MM, although probably not that much since they split up 8 years ago and many of their releases are out of print, and of course Sony must pay him for his freelance work. Also, as owner of Midi:Nette he must earn a higher proportion from M10M's releases than artists who only get a cut and their record label takes the rest, but he also has to pay wages to his staff. Perhaps he also has another producing/composing job on the side that we don't know about, like Hora, although he seems busy enough as it is (in the year he worked for Sony both Moitie and his FC almost collapsed and still haven't recovered). Or perhaps he just made a lot of money in his MM days and invested it well; going by Madousho he seems to have a nice apartment with a big balcony.

All put together, that must be enough to get by, otherwise he could easily do more. He wouldn't even have to be much more productive; just playing more concerts, making more merchandise that people can buy at those concerts, collaborating with other bands/events to win new fans and doing in-store events to promote his CDs would bring in extra money. Other bands do that on a regular basis, so the fact that he doesn't seems to indicate that he doesn't have to. But I guess we'll never know.
 

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I don't think Mana is poor. I think he still earns a lot of money xD. I have 300 dollars for one month, i have to spend 80 dollars for taxes, and everything is so expensive in my country. so EVERYONE from other countries looks so rich to me xD. And so does Mana.
 

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Geisha wrote:
I don't think he earns much money on the FC either, at least not on the international FC since you need to employ extra English speaking staff to run it.
Yes, he does NEED to employ that staff, doesn't he? XD ::hora::
I kind of suspect he just hired different people on a one-time basis every so often, because the quality of Madousho translations varied greatly.
 

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I think they had someone when they took the FC over from CD Japan, but certainly not now. ::hora:: But then I think many FC members didn't bother to renew their membership since the service got so poor, so there probably isn't a lot of money coming in from it either.
 

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But then I think many FC members didn't bother to renew their membership since the service got so poor, so there probably isn't a lot of money coming in from it either.

For the few of us who continue to renew their membership for -nearly- nothing they should at least find someone that is good at translating in english XD!
 

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Geisha wrote:
Well, you can buy their European releases. They are cheaper than the Japanese version and even include the singles.

well as an American i don't really make a distinction between Japanese and European releases because both are significantly more expensive than the average CD. plus there is not always a european release for everything, and the ones i do recall were released WAY after the original.

but that wasn't really the point of my comment. it was that to the general public who are used to just driving down to Rasputin Records/Target and paying $11.99 for a CD and then popping it in the stereo, $40+ bucks plus shipping/customs/etc is just going to sound expensive any way you dice it regardless of the justifications for the price.

plus the "pay me more" comments were always in good fun anyway and I didn't know anyone actually took them seriously
 

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plus the "pay me more" comments were always in good fun anyway and I didn't know anyone actually took them seriously

Yeah, I don't think there's really a need to write essays on why Mana isn't trying to rip us off. I don't think anyone actually thinks that.
 

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Well He's got Moi dix Mois merchandise (for example there were 1,000 dixanadu ~fated raison d'etre~ EU dvd's for male and female and they were around £28 each soo x1000 = £28,000 approx (I have no idea how much of that he earns) and they all sold out realtively quickly)
This is kind of my point. $28,000 is not a lot of money when you take into account all the places it gets spread around. There are production costs and middle men and staff and even the other band members that need to get paid, besides the fact that he doesn't often make merchandise like that.

And people are mostly done buying his already-released CDs. I know when I bought Gardenia, BoB, and Garnet last year, even though they're in print CDJapan didn't have them in stock. All the substantial money on those old releases has already been made. And as Geisha said, it's doubtful Moitie and the FC are pulling in much cash. He's probably making decent royalties from Kanon right now, and a little cash from concerts, but that's got to be it.

Maybe they really did make a ton of money with Columbia--because after thinking about Mana's current income, I can't even imagine how Kozi is getting by ::meev::
 

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I'm betting Kozi has a job. I doubt he could pay his bills otherwise.
 
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