Release Multi-band "JVM" single: kyousoukyoku ~tanbi naru kettou~

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Just announced: a new collaborative single 協奏曲 〜耽美なる血統〜 ("Concerto - Aesthetic Lineage") to commemorate this fall's Japanese Visual Metal tour
http://www.moidixmois.net/
https://nitter.moomoo.me/pic/orig/media/FvnCBtPXgAMINzi.jpg

All four "JVM" bands are taking part in the project. Kamijo wrote the melody, Mana wrote the harpsichord parts, Asagi (D) wrote the choir parts, and Sono (Matenrou Opera) did the ballad parts.
It sounds like the regular edition has all four bands' vocalists singing together, and then the live-only limited editions additionally have special tracks with just the vocalist from whichever band you're seeing.

Releasing on 9/20/2023, 1500Y.

VIP tour attendees (15000Y) get a special edition CD with all the different versions of the song, plus a 60-page photobook.
 

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Over/under on this being followed by a new full length original album by Moi dix Mois next year alongside an international tour and full Midi:Nette back catalogue remastered and released on all streaming platforms worldwide by 2025? I’m excited but depressed that the first finalised, non-prototype studio recording from The Master of Moi dix Mois we’re getting in a decade is a digital harpsichord part in a Kamijo song. Unless I’ve missed something. Those demos for the unreleased next MdM project are like, old now. Very old :( and I’m getting older too!
 

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Over/under on this being followed by a new full length original album by Moi dix Mois next year alongside an international tour and full Midi:Nette back catalogue remastered and released on all streaming platforms worldwide by 2025?
You don't ask for much, do you ::meev::
I suspect the streaming service thing is never happening - Midi:Nette is very clearly aware of streaming and just hasn't done it. Presumably this is because, for whatever reason, they don't want to. I mean, even that place that owns Klaha's rights was able to spam up their entire catalogue onto Youtube, it's not like this is a technical challenge these days XD

As for international touring, M10M doesn't even do national touring anymore really. This JVM promotional push is the most they've done in quite some time. I guess this is harder to pull off when M10M is nobody's actual job (including Mana) and everyone involved has other bands, jobs, families, whatever. It's not like 2005 where Mana could just hire a bunch of broke kids XD

And I'm not holding my breath on the album. I'm just not. :|
 

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You don't ask for much, do you ::meev::
I suspect the streaming service thing is never happening - Midi:Nette is very clearly aware of streaming and just hasn't done it. Presumably this is because, for whatever reason, they don't want to. I mean, even that place that owns Klaha's rights was able to spam up their entire catalogue onto Youtube, it's not like this is a technical challenge these days XD

As for international touring, M10M doesn't even do national touring anymore really. This JVM promotional push is the most they've done in quite some time. I guess this is harder to pull off when M10M is nobody's actual job (including Mana) and everyone involved has other bands, jobs, families, whatever. It's not like 2005 where Mana could just hire a bunch of broke kids XD

And I'm not holding my breath on the album. I'm just not. :|
What’s the actual reasoning behind it not being his priority any more? I always thought music was his true blue god-given passion, so it surprises me that he’s essentially a former musician at this point. I suppose we will never know the truth or what’s gone on behind the scenes but it makes me sad.

He really can’t try and hawk his production skills again, write songs for or with other people, generate a new musical/live/media presence, reimagine himself, start a new band? Maybe he has tried all that and hasn’t been successful, I don’t know. I’m very, very out of the loop. But he was so cool and still has ridiculous potential, it’s sad to see it peter-out.

I guess this new release and these shows are something to be excited about lol :(
 

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What’s the actual reasoning behind it not being his priority any more?
Well, nobody knows but the man himself, but I suspect a lot of it comes down to dollars and cents. Even in the glory days, it seems nobody was making all that much out of it - there's a reason Juka ran off to sell Bimmers. My personal impression (unsubstantiated) is that the business had been cash-starved for a long time - the FC got gradually shoddier and shut down, Moitie got gradually shoddier until they had to sell out to "Forest Bob", little in the way of new costumes or repertoire. Playing 2 or 3 shows a year for a full house of diehard Japanese regulars might be the stable equilibrium.

generate a new musical/live/media presence, reimagine himself
I think the problem with that is that Mana doesn't want to change genres and march to someone else's tune. The whole "JVM" thing is an acknowledgement of that much: what he and a few other bands are doing is now practically its own mini-genre, rather than being part of a larger scene.

start a new band?
The idea seems repellent to him - after all, he hasn't been in a band for over 20 years ::mana::
But even if he did want to, who could he get to join? It would seem absurd to bring some new kids aboard, and anyone who could genuinely call themselves his peers either ran off and joined Corporate Japan, or have bands of their own. He could go trawling for talent in the same booze-soaked flophouses as Kozi, but I don't really see that happening XD
 

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Dunno if I'm remembering this wrongly but didn't Mana mention somewhere that D+Sect was his "magnum opus" of sorts? Since D+Sect, the handful of songs that Mana has written feels uninspired - he's not pushing song structures or arrangement like he usually does (apart from Ghost Whispers, but even then it seems like it doesn't have a fully fleshed out guitar part). Honestly, it feels like he's done with writing music.
 

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Honestly, it feels like he's done with writing music.
What makes me want to disagree is how he jumped into this JVM thing and insisted on being the leader with the biggest picture. He surely knows that he can keep doing what he's doing indefinitely. I think he wants to do more and build up his public profile, but it's difficult when your business is so starved of oxygen.
I mean, he couldn't even get the Musical Services Subcontractors in for a JVM photoshoot because they were all too busy with other musical projects, real life, spreadsheet jockeying for The Man, or whatever it is they do when they're not working for the lord of darkness.
 

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What makes me want to disagree is how he jumped into this JVM thing and insisted on being the leader with the biggest picture. He surely knows that he can keep doing what he's doing indefinitely. I think he wants to do more and build up his public profile, but it's difficult when your business is so starved of oxygen.
I mean, he couldn't even get the Musical Services Subcontractors in for a JVM photoshoot because they were all too busy with other musical projects, real life, spreadsheet jockeying for The Man, or whatever it is they do when they're not working for the lord of darkness.

Hmm, interesting. JVM always felt to me more like a cultural big brother thing: "it's time to acknowledge the semi-retired person who paved the way for us to do this even though they're kinda smaller than all our own bands now". From that interview, all the other bands seemed to speak to Mana with a certain level of senpai-type reverance. I do agree that Mana wants to continue to build up his public profile, but it feels like creating music is no longer his main concern -- he seems to be banking on his legacy and doing all sorts of "image" related work with a bunch of other retirees and newcomers (those tarot cards lol).
 

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Every time Mana tweets something about Moi dix Mois it seems that nobody cares because those are the tweets that receive the least likes. I think that says a lot about the interest of the fans to Manas band.

I don't know if anyone wants to listen to Beast Side on that hypothetical new album, worst song ever and Ghost Whisperers and Twilight Flowers... LOL generic AF.

I am more interested in JVM now, Mana composed the song, Kamijo on vocals, Hibiki on drums, hope it turns good.
 

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Every time Mana tweets something about Moi dix Mois it seems that nobody cares because those are the tweets that receive the least likes.
We're twenty years on from the release of Dix Infernal and close to seventeen for DIXANADU, the period between those two releases could be said to be their peak of popularity, I'd wager that most people who were a fan for those releases have radically different priorities in their life now.
 

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I confess that although I'm excited about this release, I haven't been blown away by a release since D+Sect. Reprise spurred nostalgic feels but that’s pretty much it.
I was very blown away & in love with the Deep Sanctuary bluray, though, so I'm not losing hope.
 

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What makes me want to disagree is how he jumped into this JVM thing and insisted on being the leader with the biggest picture. He surely knows that he can keep doing what he's doing indefinitely. I think he wants to do more and build up his public profile, but it's difficult when your business is so starved of oxygen.
I mean, he couldn't even get the Musical Services Subcontractors in for a JVM photoshoot because they were all too busy with other musical projects, real life, spreadsheet jockeying for The Man, or whatever it is they do when they're not working for the lord of darkness.
He did not insist on being the leader. He was invited by Kamijo and Sono. Yall gotta read interviews and stop talking out your asses lol.

Kamijo wanted to do a project and he thought of Mana to join because they get along well and both do metal and are involved in tanbi aesthetic, and then scouted Sono and Asagi to finish the team because he wanted the project to be done with only people who strongly admire Mana. I have JVM translated interviews on my blog but if you'd rather keep just saying stuff that's cool lol.

Also Mana still wants to do stuff but with Mdm not ~really~ being with Midi:Nette anymore (I guess yall don't know about this either), this is difficult. They've been doing shows in Japan including "touring" in Hiroshima and Osaka lately and have more plans for net year as well. Mana isn't in a position to be superrrr active right now and I don't think it's because he doesn't want to.

Mana thinks his JVM outreach is bearing fruit and there were a lot of newcomers at the recent live:

That's not because of JVM lol it was a taiban with other groups, so fans of other groups who went for them and wouldn't necessarily go see Mdm oneman saw them for the first time. I suppose MAYBE some came from JVM but I was at the show and it was mostly just because it was fans of the other bands.

Really have work to do here undoing all this misinformation I see.... gotta have to roll my sleeves and work it seems.
 

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That's not because of JVM lol it was a taiban with other groups
Oh yes, you're right, I obviously must have mixed that up with something else.

What's your blog with the interviews?
 

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Also Mana still wants to do stuff but with Mdm not ~really~ being with Midi:Nette anymore (I guess yall don't know about this either), this is difficult.

You can't just drop something like that with no explanation lol.
 
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