Tetsu deserve a spot!

Discussion in '-feedback-' started by aceramza, Aug 30, 2004.

  1. aceramza -member- -member-

    aceramza
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    Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:46 am

    Hi.. this is my first posting and I would like to ask something...

    Even though I don't like him much like Gackt and Klaha; I think Tetsu deserve his spot in the site.. I really curious of what happened 2 him after he left MM.. I've heard his Zigzo song; Himawari and I hope to hear more from him..

    What do you all think about Tetsu? Should or shouldn't he has a same spot like Mana,Gackt,Klaha,Kozi, Yuki & Kami...

    :D
     
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  2. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

    flowersofnight
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    Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:08 am

    We've had this discussion before on the old board, and I think the conclusion was this: Lejun, who maintains the Scape pages, doesn't have the knowledge or interest necessary to make a comprehensive Tetsu section. I believe that he is not opposed to the general idea of a Tetsu page and if someone who has comprehensive information is willing to put in the time and effort to make a page that is up to the standards of the other sections, he might allow it.

    ... this is all based on my memory of what he said. Lejun, please correct me if I'm wrong ^^

    Anyway, welcome to -scape-! :D
     
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  3. Anonymous Guest

    Anonymous
    Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:14 am

    I think this is best suited for feedback forum... so moved :)
     
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  4. aceramza -member- -member-

    aceramza
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    Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:23 pm

    Thanks

    Hey..Thanks! I'ts my first time posting and my topic has magically moved! It's okay... :lol: Anyway; u have a great site and when I'm searching for a new info...I just go straight to ur site..cool! :D
     
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  5. Orchid -member-

    Orchid
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    Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 8:39 pm

    Whether the administration has the "interest" or not, if there's going to be a section for each and every other member of the band (even those somewhat inactive, such as Yu~ki) it is an insult to both Tetsu and his fans to ignore him completely.

    Oh...I'm sorry... *puts on a mask and escapes back to his lake beneath the forums, where he has been for a while*
     
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  6. aceramza -member- -member-

    aceramza
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 3:15 am

    I think it is ok to not put tetsu..coz I've been searching for his info and found only his PV with zigzo T_T.. However.. it will be soo coool to...*gasp*..put mask and runnnnn!
     
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  7. Orchid -member-

    Orchid
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 2:44 pm

    That doesn't make him any less deserving of a section on - scape - ...

    And, no, it isn't okay. The sooner this complete disregard for his contribution to MALICE MIZER stops, the better.
     
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  8. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

    flowersofnight
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 2:47 pm

    Does this mean you're volunteering to create and maintain the section? :grin:

    EDIT: longtime readers of this board already know this, but -scape-'s "disregard of Tetsu's contributions to Malice Mizer" is nothing compared to Tetsu's disregard of Tetsu's contributions to Malice Mizer XD
     
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  9. Orchid -member-

    Orchid
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 2:53 pm

    You know what? Yes. Yes, it does. ;)
     
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  10. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

    flowersofnight
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 3:03 pm

    In that case, I'll pass the word along and see what Lejun thinks of the idea. :)
    (he may be a while responding though since he is on vacation)
     
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  11. Orchid -member-

    Orchid
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 3:07 pm

    OK, thanks. :)

    We have had our differences in the past; let's hope that he can get over them as well as I have.
     
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  12. LejuN -member- -member-

    LejuN
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    Posted: Wed Sep 1, 2004 6:57 pm

    I think if I were to accept work or submissions from someone, it would need to be a person who was just slightly more level headed and logical about things.

    a) this is not an official site and I have never claimed it to be. If I want to add a freaking Dir en grey section, it is my choice. You don't have a right to dictate what should be on here. Opinions are one thing, trying to make it seem more than it is is another...

    b) His contribution to Malice Mizer is not forgotten. Once again, despite what the majority of the forum may feel, it does not reflect how I feel about it. I loved Tetsu in Malice Mizer. I think Memoire is up there with the rest of the albums. BUT! I don't follow his solo career. Simple as that. I would not know where to begin even. I can barely keep up with the site as is. I don't have time to research a carreer of an artitst I have since forgotten after his departure.

    c) The reason there is a Yuki section is simple. It is extremely easy to do (two pages), and for the simple fact to try to ease the amount of questions asking "where he is"... nothing more. I may or may not like his music if he ever ends up doing something on his own... but then again, he will probably still be added because I am here, right now, and will most likely be able to follow his career way easier.

    d) Again, I am not against a Tetsu section. But enough with the Tetsu was the matyr of Malice Mizer. You like him, tons of people do not. Get over that fact because it will most likely never change in the way you want it to.

    +LejuN+
     
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  13. aceramza -member- -member-

    aceramza
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    Posted: Thu Sep 2, 2004 11:34 am

    yes Lejun.. u r right! :D

    I think I have enough infos on MM in this site..and i don't need Tetsu section THAT much.. It's just a suggestion to make ~scape THE Number ONE source of MM past; present and future.. Hmm but then again.. You ARE the No.1 source..for me..

    RAwk ON ~scape! ::dix::
     
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  14. Orchid -member-

    Orchid
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    Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2004 9:45 pm

    [late reply]

    Well, what I can say? There's nothing more that I can do. I apologised to you for our past disputes, and even offered my hand in hopes of making amends. And you, well, decided to make the matter of the contents of your Web site a personal attack upon myself. In so many words, that wasn't a very nice thing to do, especially for something so mundane and trivial. In the future, though, send me a private message if you want to harass and berate me, rather than making a public spectacle out of my proverbial witch trial, eh?

    That being said, I'm not going anywhere, for a while.

    Good luck, heh.
     
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  15. flowersofnight -moderator- -moderator-

    flowersofnight
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    Posted: Wed Sep 8, 2004 10:25 pm

    I have a feeling this might get ugly. I'm not quite ready to delete any posts here but I am locking the thread - seeing as the main question has been asked and answered.

    -flowersofnight, temporary moderator
     
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  16. LejuN -member- -member-

    LejuN
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    Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:02 am

    Look. I wasn't trying to personally attack you. I am stating the truth as I see it. You apologized and in the same thread demonstrated the same behaviour you apologized for. It just seems like you think everyone is agaisnt and you have to be against everyone else over, as you say, something so trivial.

    As you can see, I am now working to bring you and everyone else a tetsu section (weather they like it or not). If you are still willing to help and we can put our differences aside, I would love to have some input from you and a few others to make it happen.

    All I am saying is let's calm down and have fun here. Don't worry about people and their opinions so much. It is a long hard battle that you will never win. But if we go about it constructivly, we might change a few minds ne?

    Anyway. Sorry if I was harsh about it all. Was not trying to out and out flame you, I just felt the tension from the past creep up with your words and it got to me.

    So once again, if you are interested, get in touch with me and we can go from there. If not, well, a tetsu section is still coming and I hope it is up to your standards.

    +LejuN+
     
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