Batsu posts M10M concert rumor

[Cally]

If it's a rumor, why care? You're not supposed to, remember?
Because they're RUMORS. You can try to correct and verify but it's not your fault if they're stupid and believe everything.
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The only thing that really upsets me about the potential rumor isnt the fact that it could be an outright lie (which is very well seems to be)

It's the fact that it's playing on the hopes of all of Mana's very very hopeful American fans... a lot of which probably would give anything to see him play live, but cant afford to travel way the hell overseas to do it. I'm one of them. While Mana doesnt express any REAL SUPER SERIOUS INTEREST in playing here, we still hold a little hope in our hearts that maybe one day he will. That one day we'll be able to see him play live for us.

Playing on that hope, be it for a joke or to turn a profit is just plain -wrong- on so many levels.

THAT is the problem -I- have with Batsu. Dont know about anyone else here.

 

[DementedThingie]

I feel the same way Calisto just described. Traveling to Japan is just far to expensive for me at the moment, maybe in a few years... but certainly not now. I hang onto the string of hope that maybe Mana will come. If not then its fine, its his decision where he wants to go and tour... but batsu won't hear the end of it if its a lie.

Edit: spotted a typo >>;

 

[Iru]

I feel the same way Calisto just described. Traveling to Japane is just far to expensive for me at the moment, maybe in a few years... but certainly not now. I hang onto the string of hope that maybe Mana will come. If not then its fine, its his decision where he wants to go and tour... but batsu won't hear the end of it if its a lie.

Yep, agreed. Too many rumours already so i hope they put end to these rumours soon.

 

[desqui]

Oh, I can sure judge Batsu. But that's because I've looked at it over a period of two years or so and so I know how it is there. It's a bunch of blithering, disrespectful idiots. I know there are intelligent people there, but on the whole it's not a place (I know it's not with the forum, but by extension it is) I would think of Mana affiliating himself with.

I've only been there for a year in a half so.. can't say anything there =P

The only thing that really upsets me about the potential rumor isnt the fact that it could be an outright lie (which is very well seems to be)

It's the fact that it's playing on the hopes of all of Mana's very very hopeful American fans...

There's always an emotional rollercoaster involved. They're coming eventually and you won't die if Batsu lied.
<-- is cold-hearted.

I hang onto the string of hope that maybe Mana will come. If not then its fine, its his decision where he wants to go and tour... but batsu won't hear the end of it if its a lie.

I agree to that!

 

[reversegecko]

Why do people keep saying mana isn't interested in performing in America?

In one interview he stated that he does want to do a concert here, just that america isn't ready yet or something like that.

 

[yun]

your wrong ._. he told in the Jame interview and in the orient extrem interview that he prefers europe to america and that doesn't really think about going to america plus ha said he would go there maybe if he was invite..
but well a concert can't be plan in two fdays so why would he have said that if he was already knowing he will go to the US <_<?

 

[Cally]

The only thing that really upsets me about the potential rumor isnt the fact that it could be an outright lie (which is very well seems to be)

It's the fact that it's playing on the hopes of all of Mana's very very hopeful American fans...

There's always an emotional rollercoaster involved. They're coming eventually and you won't die if Batsu lied.
<-- is cold-hearted.

I dont think you're cold-hearted (i'm considering this more a friendly debate and we're each expressing our separate points of view on it. I'm not easily offended. I'm a very mellow person, and also happen to have a new pack of cigarettes on me. A generally mellow and cigarette stocked cally is a happy one)

Granted, no, I wouldnt die... I would be disappointed about it but I would be perfectly fine. However, the part that bothers me is the overall situation. Granted I wouldnt be horribly hurt or offended myself by this insanity... but the fact that other people can and probably would be very saddened is what bothers me.

(if this sounds like gibberish, I appologise profusely. I never HAVE been very good at articulating my thoughs, and unfortunately nobody here has known me long enough to be well-enough-versed in Cally-speak to translate XD)

Like I said, it's the overall -situation.- The fact that they may very well be playing on the hopes of a large group of fans that probably would never have a chance of seeing him otherwise... if only for a joke... It's a very cruel thing to do. And I really hope they prove this whole thread wrong and make good, that would make me happy to know that they werent really trying to turn a profit on peoples' hopes (even if it means me being horribly wrong) and I would gladly admit to being wrong about them. Until that time, however... yeah I'll be kind of miffed at them for this whole situation.

There was more I meant to say, but being the ADD poster child that I am, I forgot X_X

 

[Kyuketsuki]

Why do people keep saying mana isn't interested in performing in America?

In one interview he stated that he does want to do a concert here, just that america isn't ready yet or something like that.

I honestly think he says that just to shut the interviewer up about it. It will happen eventually, but the fact is that it isn't happening any time soon. He's got priorities more important to him at the moment.

 

[Haku]

Why do people keep saying mana isn't interested in performing in America?

In one interview he stated that he does want to do a concert here, just that america isn't ready yet or something like that.

I honestly think he says that just to shut the interviewer up about it. It will happen eventually, but the fact is that it isn't happening any time soon. He's got priorities more important to him at the moment.

*nod nod* I'm all good if it isn't number 1 on his list of priorities, but.. I just don't want him to rush into anything that would lessen the experience. that kinda sounds wrong...

But I'm willing to wait. Just as long as he will do it one day.

 

[Blackberry Sage]

Except for the fact he has said quite a few times that he is trying to get to the US.

Trying doesn't mean it's his top concern.

We know that. Palindrome said he's not focusing "in any way" which is just wrong.

Thank you, Rizumu. That was what I was getting at. I know getting to America isn't Mana's number one concern. Where did I say it was? Honestly...

Everyone here seems to jump on others and immediatly misunderstand what they say. I'm not trying to be mean, its just something I've observed. But that's getting offtopic and I'd probably get bashed for saying anything more.

 

[rizumu]

Why do people keep saying mana isn't interested in performing in America?

In one interview he stated that he does want to do a concert here, just that america isn't ready yet or something like that.

I honestly think he says that just to shut the interviewer up about it. It will happen eventually, but the fact is that it isn't happening any time soon. He's got priorities more important to him at the moment.

I don't know if he's trying to shut them up, but I think he does play sides a bit. It could just as easily be the difference between him talking to the French in one interview - of course I prefer Europe, oh I'm not really concerned about the US - and a more neutral party in the other - I don't prefer one or the other, I'm looking for partners in the US, etc.

 

[Kyuketsuki]

Why do people keep saying mana isn't interested in performing in America?

In one interview he stated that he does want to do a concert here, just that america isn't ready yet or something like that.

I honestly think he says that just to shut the interviewer up about it. It will happen eventually, but the fact is that it isn't happening any time soon. He's got priorities more important to him at the moment.

I don't know if he's trying to shut them up, but I think he does play sides a bit. It could just as easily be the difference between him talking to the French in one interview - of course I prefer Europe, oh I'm not really concerned about the US - and a more neutral party in the other - I don't prefer one or the other, I'm looking for partners in the US, etc.

I meant shutting-up by that they keep asking over and over about america or a Moitié in europe, so instead of having to give an explaination of why it isn't likely that it'll happen (moreso with the moitié. US might be more likely than a euro store), he just says yes so they'll be happy and leave him alone about it. But yes, of course he sucks up.

 

[Bagt]

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And Midi:Nette still doesn't reply to the emails?

 

[Kyuketsuki]

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And Midi:Nette still doesn't reply to the emails?

I honestly don't think they ever reply. :?

 

[nekoi]

I fail to see the immense difficulty in finding a competent U.S. label and distribution company to sufficiently and professionally fund, promote, and organise an American tour. Let Century Media or The End Records do it; if it would be benefactory to both Moi dix Mois and the label in question to forge a partnership as over half the band's official fan club are in the United States. Moi dix Mois easily transcend the likes of anime conventions and the overall Japanese pop culture niche, and definitely deserve better than the likes of this company, even if it is to be official...which if it is, I see misfortune ahead.

I totally agree with this.

Another thing... if Batsu are being liars, as fans we are allowed to judge anything related & be angry if someone lies to us or gets our hopes up.
No one has to like Batsu.. especially when there's a possibility that they're pissing a hell-of-a-lot of people off! So ignore the batsu bashing or deal with it. .__.;

Also, Mana prefers Europe over the US because it suits his image better, & he'd probably get a lot more support in an continent known for enjoying heavy metal & his kind of darkness.

 

[rizumu]

Also, Mana prefers Europe over the US because it suits his image better, & he'd probably get a lot more support in an continent known for enjoying heavy metal & his kind of darkness.

Whether Mana thinks that or not, I personally believe it's BS. I see people say all the time "I don't want Mana to play in America, it doesn't suit him." Does the US's "image" suit D'espairsRay? No. Did they play here? Hell yeah. There are tons of bands that play all over the world, not because the country suits their image but because they have fans there.

 

[bruke]

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And Midi:Nette still doesn't reply to the emails?

I honestly don't think they ever reply. :?

yeah they do reply.
they just don't reply those stupid fangirls emails.. but at least we're making great progress here until now

and about the image..
i don't think Mana likes Europe because of its image.. but the history.. he said once that he was pretty interested in europe because the greatest influences to him, were borned and lived there. But that totally doesn't mean that he can't play in hawaii/Iraq/Brazil/Madagascar , because hawaii/Iraq/Brazil/Madagascar doesn't suit him. dats bullshit.

 

[Blackberry Sage]

yeah they do reply.
they just don't reply those stupid fangirls emails.. but at least we're making great progress here until now

and about the image..
i don't think Mana likes Europe because of its image.. but the history.. he said once that he was pretty interested in europe because the greatest influences to him, were borned and lived there. But that totally doesn't mean that he can't play in hawaii/Iraq/Brazil/Madagascar , because hawaii/Iraq/Brazil/Madagascar doesn't suit him. dats bullshit.

Sorry, but the image of Mana trying to play in Madagascar is extremly humorus. All the humitity and rain would ruin his hair, and then the monkeys would attack...

 

[Aiko Valentine]

Sorry, but the image of Mana trying to play in Madagascar is extremly humorus. All the humitity and rain would ruin his hair, and then the monkeys would attack...

But they would only attack because when they saw that hair they would think "HOLY CRAP, BUFFET!!!" and want to pick through it for bugs

 

[Dix Infernal]

Also, Mana prefers Europe over the US because it suits his image better, & he'd probably get a lot more support in an continent known for enjoying heavy metal & his kind of darkness.

Whether Mana thinks that or not, I personally believe it's BS. I see people say all the time "I don't want Mana to play in America, it doesn't suit him." Does the US's "image" suit D'espairsRay? No. Did they play here? Hell yeah. There are tons of bands that play all over the world, not because the country suits their image but because they have fans there.

Exactly. Was Texas in D'espairsRay's "image"? Was Maryland in L'arc en Ciel's? What about BLOOD in Mexico? I don't see what people are implying by all of this image vs locale crap. Bands don't schedule concerts for their image- bands schedule concerts for their fans (or at least, I hope they do. ). Technically speaking, if Moi Dix Mois was to stay true to their image, they'd be playing a live in an empty graveyard with no attendees, not a real venue in Paris or Berlin. If Dir en Grey were to stay true to their image during thir lives, Kyo would end up singing in a mental hospital, not in New York of LA.

But seriously, what would be better for Mana's image? Canada? Argentina? They're no better then we are, image-wise. Japan isn't exactly the most fitting place for Mana's 'image' either. But yet, I don't see anyone complaining about that. I would like to see Mana in Madagscar though... heh, that be cool- M10M rocking with the lemurs! Oh so hardcore!