Eve of Destiny 2005 Spring Tour

[Einherjer]

I couldn't agree more with Geisha. I mean, the only reason I discovered Visual Kei is because some guy on the anime board i was posting at suggested that I listen to Malice Mizer. But for me, it was much more than "Oh look! Japanese people wearing crazy clothes!!" The aesthetic was definitely something that motivated me to go out and do research on a bunch of VK bands (after all, most VK bands out there make some pretty mediocre music and the only thing they've got going for them is stage dress), but I'm not the type who listens to stuff from japan just because it's japanese. Even anime and manga have lost my interest.

Anywho, it really pisses me off that I'll be in paris during EOD show but won't be able to make it

 

[Jessi]

Anywho, it really pisses me off that I'll be in paris during EOD show but won't be able to make it

Um...they...uh...cancelled the Paris show.

 

[Einherjer]

Um...they...uh...cancelled the Paris show.

I read they cancelled some shows. I wasn't sure if that mean just a few, all, or what, but I didn't read too deeply into it 'cause I was sleepy.

That, from my standing, is great news, then.

 

[Case]

Well, I think concerts are just fine at cons. They're practically the ONLY place Japanese bands can perform at in the U.S. Even though EoD is more Euro sounding, they ARE a Japanese band, and most people wouldn't even TRY them if they DIDN'T come to some conventions. And, not all of the people that go to cons are super huge dorks. Honestly, it's EoD's best shot at coming to America, but I don't know if Haruhiko would EVER consider it...

............??? Err.. just what are you talking about? Melt-Banana, Guitar Wolf, Polysics, Acid Mothers Temple, Electric Eel Shock, Petty Booka, Shonen Knife are just a few of the COUNTLESS Japanese bands that had highly successful club tours in the US many, many times. They do not wear dresses, neither make songs for animes, they just make fucking great music. That's enough to get a name in music circles, where it's the music what matter and not if you are considered 'cool' for some reason or not.

And why people hate cons? Coz, people will go to see bands at cons coz OMFG, THEY ARE JAPANESE!! Indeed, some of the bands that played at cons would never ever get any attention otherwise, because they just suck so bad, but when they play at a con it does not matter, coz they are Japanese, so they are automatically considered "cool". Do you think it's a good thing?

Also, some people still seem to think that Japanese music equals vkei and mainstream JPop. Well, it's like... not true, you know?

 

[celticmoonflow]

Please remember that in some cases the most cost effective way for musicians and the organisers to "introduce" a band outside of Japan in a foreign country will be through a convention, and that does not stop the band going on and then doing club tours/one off shows etc.

A convention appearance certainly should not introduce any snobbery "I hate so and so band because they sold out and done a con appearance moan moan" but it does. Not every country has a shithot club circuit and many people in the club business are cold to the idea of setting up concerts for Japanese bands even though a sizeable fanbase may exist.

Yeah, most people will go "ooh cool Japanese" at conventions but out of those people there may be a number of fans who will start to take the music seriously without it's anime convention "stigma".

I don't care either way except for fans who should have the chance to see bands whether at a live house, convention or at their local disco.

~Persimmon~

 

[Monophobia]

VK in US
-BLOOD
-Duel Jewel
-Psycho le Cemu
-SIN

VK in Europe
-Mana
-D'espairs Ray
-Kisaki Project
-BLOOD

I'm sick of hearing people in the US whine about no VK bands playing there...how do you think us Canadian fans feel? o_O

VK in Canada
...crickets chirp...

It really would be nice to see at least one in my own country...I'm not overly concerned about this because well
1) our anime conventions suck so I really don't want to see them there...well except for maybe CNAnime in Toronto, because the stage is pretty big...
2) I really love them so, I think they deserve to hold a live at a better location, one where the people come to see them for their music and not just because their japanese

Anyway Toronto is really deverse, there's plenty of asian people around and I'm sure they wouldn't mind checking it out for something new if they haven't heard of VK before. Toronto is a great place to gain some fans without having to sellout to anime otakus IMO...but will a VK band perform in Canada soon? unlikely.

 

[Case]

Not every country has a shithot club circuit and many people in the club business are cold to the idea of setting up concerts for Japanese bands even though a sizeable fanbase may exist.

What country are you talking about? The US does have a 'shithot club circuit' (whatever that might mean). And I doubt club organizers would be scared away by a Japanese band. Just take all the above bands I've mentioned as an example. They all toured US lotsa times, playing in countless, sometimes rather remote places. They can do it coz they are good, so why would them or any other band that is actually good (EoD for example) play at cons, to people who do not even care about their music? A band like Duel Jewel for example could never do a club tour, bacause their music is so mediocre, that nobody would care... they are nothing without the people who like them just coz they are Japanese.

The problem with EoD is that because of Közi, some people want to sell them only as a Japanese band and not just as a band. And when they say they don't want to be advertised as some kind of a novelty act, everyone goes upset.

 

[Monophobia]

Case you keep mentioning Guitar Wolf and other non-VK bands, well they can tour around easier because of the fact of well, popularity...and also no VK. I think the point of the whole thing is that VK will be looked down upon for doing anything other than anime cons in North America in fear of them being laughed at and not taken seriously. It's hard to convince a club or livehouse to fly a japanese VK indie band who isn't even all that popular in Japan in the first place, bring them to North America, and potentially lose lots of money from lack of fans showing up...

 

[Einherjer]

VK in US
-BLOOD
-Duel Jewel
-Psycho le Cemu
-SIN

::Is going to Katsucon solely for PLC::

I don't even think their music is that great (but their PVs are nuts), I just wanna go to a freaking VK concert.

:rays to God that they will play Excalibur::

One o' my "friends" saw Duel Jewel a while back, got pictures taken of themselves with the band, and made me jealous. Now is my time to flaunt this in the faces of the Waps at my school.

But about bands appearing at conventions: It's good for bands to get exposure and I certainly believe that "any publicity is good publicity," but seriously, people need to respect the music bands make, not their freaking nationality. How the hell can you make your favorite band some piece of sheeeet group that look pretty but can't write worth a damn?

 

[Case]

Case you keep mentioning Guitar Wolf and other non-VK bands, well they can tour around easier because of the fact of well, popularity...and also no VK.

if you check what they wrote you will see they were talking about 'Japanese bands' in general, not 'Japanese vkei bands'. Also the whole thing started from that person sayin' that EoD should go play at cons in the US.

 

[Monophobia]

Case you keep mentioning Guitar Wolf and other non-VK bands, well they can tour around easier because of the fact of well, popularity...and also no VK.

if you check what they wrote you will see they were talking about 'Japanese bands' in general, not 'Japanese vkei bands'. Also the whole thing started from that person sayin' that EoD should go play at cons in the US.

Ahhhh ok, thanks for clearing it up.

 

[celticmoonflow]

And I doubt club organizers would be scared away by a Japanese band.

On a number of occasions there HAS been contact with some clubs to enquire (both in UK and Canada) and they ARE often scared away by Japanese bands, the cost for a start, then they always mention the language barrier etc. Perhaps in mainland Europe it's another story as the music scene is quite different from what I have seen here (ie the UK).

EOD done what they thought was best (even though it pissed off a lot of fans) if they thought they were being touted as a "novelty act", that was their "opinion" VK is what it is and it is understandable if they come to Europe to play and don't want to be associated with it, but was it really THAT important to put that point before fans who love EOD for what it is - a band that makes great music?

However because of the nature of concert promotion which is about advertising in a descriptive manner before a concert on flyers/websites/magazines and everywhere the fact that they are from Japan and that Kozi was in Malice Mizer etc will always be a something which will often be used.

Sometimes it's positive way for a band to drum up new fans if no-one has heard of EOD but like Haruhiko from The Zolge or Kozi from MM but if the band have issues with being touted as nothing but "EOD -we are a band period" then it's probably going to be tough breaking the mould of typical music promotion. good luck to them!

I think a solid CD release and some clever promotion into advertising themselves as what they REALLY want to be seen as will do them alot more good than cancelling concerts and getting upset about misunderstandings, even though I do understand and respect their decision not to be labelled as VK.

~Persimmon~





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[Flatliner]

EoD just needs to put out a freaking CD.
That's usually helpful when you're a band.

 

[celticmoonflow]

Agreed, I think it will be alot easier for EOD to get the recognition they crave as a stand alone band if they get a CD released.

~Persimmon~

 

[Anonymous]

Speaking of the EOD CD... CCP website seems to show signs of life and all those CDs they didn't release when they should have are getting 'restarted' again. Nervous and Innocence is 3rd in line. The 1st CD on the list is being released on the 14th of February, which means NAI should be getting a release date of late March...

Now what's even more ridiculous about this whole thing is that CCP seems to sell their CDs only via eBay... I think I would have done a better job at releasing that CD myself...

Overall, even if EOD finally get that CD released, I think it's safe to say they have failed at achieving anything noteworthy for the time being.

 

[Geisha]

Now what's even more ridiculous about this whole thing is that CCP seems to sell their CDs only via eBay... I think I would have done a better job at releasing that CD myself...

OMG - I have never heard of a music label that only sells its CDs via eBay.

 

[Anonymous]

Let me clarify - the label only sells direct via eBay, but they're supposed to have SPV distribution otherwise.

However... I looked around for some of their other releases (that are actually out) and I couldn't find them anywhere online (not the usual places at least) so I'm starting to wonder about their distribution.

 

[Alita]

For everybody who will visit the concert in Vienna ....

http://www.monastery.at/main.html

You can order the tickets on this site ^^ ... I just noticed it


eBay? .... omg that's really ridiculous O_o

 

[Case]

For everybody who will visit the concert in Vienna ....

http://www.monastery.at/main.html

You can order the tickets on this site ^^ ... I just noticed it


eBay? .... omg that's really ridiculous O_o

Monastery is not really good in replying to emails. However I'm sure, that it is not necessary to pre-order tickets, since the club is quite big.

 

[Radical Dreamer]

There will be no EOD on Astan Festivals this Year !!

I got informed,that EOD talked with the Astan Staff about Future Concerts.And EOD said that there will be no EOD Astan Concerts in Germany this Year and it is possible that they will not even perform at the WGT.
The Reason for that is that Astan have too many J-Rock Bands featured in the Magazin(!!!) ....i recall only Despairsray and Blood have been featured once on Astan Magazine.

What is going on on their Minds? O.o;

But there is still good News:

"Blood" and a Band called "Calmando Qual" and another J-Rock Band,which Name will not be officially announced untill Summer, will be shown at this Years Astan Festivals.