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I think I will watch this too.

And no you're not being my funeral director and no I did not know this rule and no it's not a rule anyway :lol:

I agree that the artwork in Shingeki was really bad in the beginning (especially his attempts at drawing children), but it gets better. I'd actually say it's fine now. Besides, the series wouldn't be so horrific if the limbless corpses were drawn in Takahashi Makoto style. Somehow it works.
 

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Just found out they came out with a complete "Devilman" DVD boxset. Maybe I'll get it, even though it's only subtitled.

Meanwhile, it has indeed been mostly "Dark Shadows" here XD The Quentin saga is gearing up ::batsu::
 

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Watched Jeepers Creepers last night, which is another case of a decent concept being ruined by cliches and conventions. It had a surprisingly strong opening and an astonishingly forgettable ending. I tried to watch the sequel, but I just couldn't get into it. I know they're all high school students in the basketball team, but I've ridden on team busses before and nobody goes shirtless. 15 guys and 7 of them topless at any given moment? Really? what really turned me off the film was the homophobic bully. Even if he gets his bloody death, he just bothers me whenever he's on the screen.

Who knew that the Jeepers Creepers franchise could actually jump the shark?
 

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Watched the first episode of a Korean drama called "You're Beautiful" about a girl dressing in incredibly unconvincing drag and somehow fooling the entire cast including 3 guys she lives with.
Also Koreans seem to think that people getting shitfaced drunk and throwing up all over other people is the pinnacle of hilarity. I think it's just gross.
 

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I will NOT be watching 50 Shades of Grey.
But I just finished watching this and...the last card.
I don't suppose anyone besides Hanachan will understand why it's absolutely hillarious because you're not in our secret club.
It's still a funny clip regardless.

http://9gag.tv/p/a9OYM8/dakota-johnson- ... ounds-sexy
 

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nope. Gotta watch it or it loses its magic.
 

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faith wrote:
I will NOT be watching 50 Shades of Grey.
Me either, but PE probably already pre-ordered her ticket.
GREATEST LOVE STORY EVER TOLD ::batsu::

People protesting and boycotting it is stupid though, there are already tons of other movies with way more sex in them, the only difference is this one is mainstream and popular.
 

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From what I understand some of them have valid reasons...
The BdSM community is angry because it misrepresents their practices in a way that is harmful and insulting, for example.
Of course the average joe has no clue what they do, and now he's going to think they're freaks.

Personally though, I'm just annoyed that something trashy is so popular.
It's like the Kim Kardashian and Kanye West of the movie world.
It could be a Gackt scandal.
 

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Well it's out now and currently sitting at 29% on Rotten Tomatoes so it sounds like much ado about nothing.
MPAA wrote:
R (for strong sexual content including dialogue, some unusual behavior and graphic nudity, and for language)
Lol @ "unusual behavior".
 

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Cerceaux wrote:
Me either, but PE probably already pre-ordered her ticket.
HOW DID YOU KNOW?! ::batsu::

I haven't seen it yet, but we'll see what happens when I do. I hope it isn't actually bad though and that it's more of a "oh my gosh bdsm this is totally abuse stuff sex ahhh this is terrible" thing. I still don't understand why it's such a big deal! Years later I still don't understand!

There are people who even haven't seen the movie or read the trilogy and don't like it, which I find completely weird.

Then I saw some ghastly article and discussed it with Cerceaux. This doctor lady (A WOMAN) wrote her criticisms of the movie and books:

Here are a few of the dangerous ideas promoted by Fifty Shades of Grey:

Girls want guys like Christian who order them around and get rough.

No! A psychologically healthy woman avoids pain. She wants to feel safe, respected and cared for by a man she can trust. She dreams about wedding gowns, not handcuffs.
This was the grossest thing I've read in a long time. I just find this type of shaming, about types of sex women like, very harmful towards women as well.
Women can like rough sex and handcuffs too! Woah, omg! No way!

I'm not saying I love Christian and Ana's relationship (I personally think Christian is WAY too complicated, weird, dominant, and overbearing even though he has his good qualities), but I find the conversations about the sex Ana enjoys troubling because there are tons of women who enjoy it too and there's nothing wrong with it.

(Their sex actually got more "vanilla" over time and less descriptive actually so most of the hubbub is about the first book, which is amazing.)

Yes, there are MANY problems with 50 Shades of Grey, but my goodness, can we please stop pretending like women are supposed to be non-sexual beings waiting for their faithful prince charming, all in order to have mundane sex and never explore curiosity? I'm not saying go out and try anything with anyone. All I am saying, is that maybe we should be teaching young girls to be strong, independent, comfortable in their own skin, brave, confident to voice their wants and needs, and honest about their desires, instead of telling them they should be dreaming about wedding dresses, and certainly instead of shaming them for exploring sexuality in the normal, healthy, and positive ways you seem to be discouraging.
omg yes.

I also liked this tidbit directed to parents:
You don't want your son to be perplexed about such an important issue. He must be absolutely clear that abuse of an intimate partner is never ok, under any circumstances. Otherwise, he could pay a high price. Just one incident could throw his life off track and destroy his dreams. Consider what happened to Canadian journalist Jian Ghomeshi.
Yeah, don't abuse someone because look at what can happen to YOU and YOUR dreams ::meev::

I'll go back to dreaming about wedding dresses now.
 

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PureElegance wrote:
There are people who even haven't seen the movie or read the trilogy and don't like it
The whole trilogy? Come on ::meev::
I actually read one entire book of Twilight which it's based on, and that's far more than you can expect from anyone XD
 

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TBH PE, I did read some excerpts and couldn't take the poor writing style.
There was a detailed plot summary and character analysis, and it's just not something I'm interested in reading.
Apparently it's better in French because the translator also reworked the style but meh.
Not my type of book.

As stated, and as one of those people who don't like it without seeing or reading it (after researching it deciding not to), my personal issue with it is that there are so many really good books out there.
It's a shame that THIS one had to get the attention and the revenue.
 

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flowersofnight wrote:
PureElegance wrote:
There are people who even haven't seen the movie or read the trilogy and don't like it
The whole trilogy? Come on ::meev::
I actually read one entire book of Twilight which it's based on, and that's far more than you can expect from anyone XD
I've never read Twilight so I have no opinion on it either way!

I'm more troubled about the way the sex is talked about and I don't really care about the opinions on the writing style really (which I didn't address at all in my earlier post). That's not what I really care about here. But what I do like about the novel is that it's allowing people to talk about different types of sex in general and what kinds of things women like. You can really see how puzzled people are by such normal things (ex. wanting to be dominated in bed) and how people shame women for liking what they like.

I also like that Ana was willing to try things and draw the line at what she didn't like and that was totally cool. After doing her own research she wanted to see what it was like so she asked Christian if they could try it out and when she didn't like it, she realized they were incompatible, and so broke up with Christian. *claps* THAT'S when he decided to try out a more normal lifestyle and that's the start of the second book. It starts out with them not seeing each other for some time and he misses her and comes crawling back, promising to try to be more "normal."

It's funny because they never do actually perform the contract, they never become a D/S couple, and Ana just takes elements she likes from it. She didn't stand to be anything other than his girlfriend because she was uncomfortable with his lifestyle and I liked that. Ana definitely got more mature as time went on.

I also liked how she reacted to being spanked for the first time (I don't think it happens all that much, maybe twice in the trilogy?). She's both confused and happy because it seemed "wrong" for her to get pleasure out of it. I think it really reflects how many women feel guilty over what they "should" like, how they're supposed to act, and what they actually like. I certainly felt this way a couple of years ago when I realized some things about myself (for example, I wondered why I absolutely melted when I experienced certain things) and I saw how it seemed to conflict with my feminist ideals. But then I saw how harmful it was to shame women for what they like too or how they want to be and that's not very feminist either. Now I've reconciled everything, but I know what it feels like to want something and feel guilty over it even though there's nothing wrong with it. I think, as one of the comments said above, we should be encouraging girls to be confident in their sexuality and their desires instead of making them feel guilty.

I really liked the second book out of the three because it finally got serious (the first one seemed really amateurish in its writing style and most of the shock value and what people are stomping around about is in the first one) and you got in depth into Christian and Ana's characters, along with their families. Their families were very nice! I really liked Christian's little sister because she was bubbly and silly. But then there's Elena and I liked how Ana would never lower herself to that level. I also remember it was in the second book when Ana decides to speak to Christian's longtime therapist to learn more about him and see if she could accept his deepest secrets before getting more involved.

The third was a roller-coaster ride and not very realistic, I also didn't like something Christian did in the third book, but it was still pretty exciting with all the drama and the crazy ex-girlfriend and things getting out of control. Oh, right, I forgot the novels are about ~sex~, but you see how it's not even the focus as time goes on.

He's kind of an anxious weirdo in the third one too at some points, but he was worried about being a bad father. I liked that Ana stuck to her guns and decided to keep the baby even if she was going to be a single mother (she didn't want his help). When she saw the fetus on the ultrasound screen she named it "Blip" and kept the little picture with her. She nearly died and she still thought about Blip's safety. I think by the time the last novel ends she becomes someone I really like.

Not watching anything now ::meev::
 

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I'm sure there are much better books and movies that deal with the same stuff. There's a whole world of erotica. And spanking is THE British *oh teeheehee how Naughty!* sexy thing to do.

As for how it gets people open to talking about this stuff...well...I think that brings up the real issue.
Since as long as humanity has been around, the public, church, empire, government, etc has made it their business to know what goes on in other people's bedrooms and judge it, censor it, condemn it, etc.
As long as it's with oneself or other living, consenting, of-age humans then it's no one else's business.

That's why homosexuality is an issue right now, for example.
People can't keep out of other people's business.

And so basically the fact that there are now a lot of uninformed people writing about an uninformed book seems worse to me than before.
As long as a woman's (and man's) sexuality is property of the public things aren't really better.
 

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PureElegance wrote:
I've never read Twilight so I have no opinion on it either way!
But I don't see how you can be so interested in 50 Shades and have no curiosity about the source material. I mean, isn't Christian Grey just Edward Cullen with the serial numbers filed off? From what I understand, all the weird possessive behaviors of Christian are based on Edward's vampire foolery XD
 

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Finally watched "Patlabor: The Movie" after buying it about 2 years ago... ::ash::

It was really cool, not as dense and serious as Ghost in the Shell but still felt very Oshii with the realistic urban landscapes, creepy birds, Biblical references, and fish-eye lens shots of characters' faces.
Still working my way through the giant pile of extras it came with. I don't know if I'd ever actually sit and read the entire storyboard, but I guess it's neat to have. ::meev::
 

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flowersofnight wrote:
PureElegance wrote:
I've never read Twilight so I have no opinion on it either way!
But I don't see how you can be so interested in 50 Shades and have no curiosity about the source material. I mean, isn't Christian Grey just Edward Cullen with the serial numbers filed off? From what I understand, all the weird possessive behaviors of Christian are based on Edward's vampire foolery XD
I don't think I'm "so interested" in Fifty Shades. The reason I read it was because I didn't know why the subject matter was unusual, I also thought the books were a fun ride overall, and the reason I talk about it is the interesting discussions about sex and feminism it brings up. I don't go researching the books or find myself curious to know more and all I'm talking about really is what happened in the books and my reactions to them. I'm more interested in how people react to the sexual parts of it because THAT'S interesting.

EDIT: LOL "source material." It's as if we're talking about a set of books taking its inspiration from a classic text.

I don't really like Christian Grey himself either XD He wasn't awful and I see where he's coming from, but he's just too much at some points and while I was OK with him for the first two books ("OK" also meaning this is in the context of a fantasy) I thought he was weird in the third and way too much even though he finally got better. I like Ana the most.

Oh man, I'm HOOKED on "Empire"! What an excellent series! It's about a label created by a black family that becomes a musical empire. You have intrigue involving the three sons, who will inherit THE EMPIRE, evil girlfriends, the mother who comes back to take the throne, others scheming in the dark, mental illnesses, rival leaders, etc... but all in a modern day hip hop label involving celebrities and real singers! It's a roller coaster ride and I'm hooked. I really like the sons, especially Hakeem. He reminds me of Simba.

One of the best things about it is the original music made for the Empire label's singers and for the sons. The sons rap and sing and it's really awesome and each week has a new song and a new celebrity guest star.

I also like that it deals with things like interracial dating, how mental illnesses are seen, how gay people are seen in POC communities, people with addictions, how parenting affected the sons differently, how hiphop/rap music videos are made, how the family rose from 'the hood' to their billionaire lifestyle, etc. The father, Lucius, who runs Empire, is really old-fashioned in his ways when it comes to his gay son Jamal and his son Andre who married a white woman. She's not a good person though so I'm not even mad about that. I also admire Cookie's unconditional love and support for each of her sons and what a strong, sassy businesswoman she is. Man, she has an incredible wardrobe too.

Lucius is a pretty selfish person and let the power and money get to his head though and only now because of a certain event does he realize he has a family. So he's kind of better. Cookie's the best though...

It's a great show and I'm glad it's getting stellar reviews and a big viewership! :)
 
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