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Kyuketsuki wrote:
Hahahaha! Well, if we wanted to be really thorough, we could always use the way-back machine.....or, you know, 2013 is fine, too. ::batsu::
Seeing as what we cribbed the name from didn't come out till December '02, I think '03 is likely enough XD
 

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Kyuketsuki wrote:
Hahahaha! Well, if we wanted to be really thorough, we could always use the way-back machine.....or, you know, 2013 is fine, too. ::batsu::
Seeing as what we cribbed the name from didn't come out till December '02, I think '03 is likely enough XD

That works, then! ::meev::

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What would we do anyway? Talk in rainbows?

I'm all about that if that's what you want to do.

Honestly, no idea. Maybe flowers could put in some irritating confetti (or rainbows) script to fall across the forum for a week just to pester everyone. ::kisaki::
 

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@Flowers: yeah, I've heard of professional wine tasters being tricked like that. I think a lot of it has to do with that idea of people assuming cost=quality like I said. The people that are trying to trick them are like "haha, this dummy likes the $8 bottle more than the $50 bottle. What a fraud" even though sometimes the $8 bottle really is better than the $50 bottle. When they switch the labels, the wine taster picks based on the reputation and cost of the mislabelled brand and it seems natural that their opinion of its taste would be affected by their preconceived notions. That's human nature.

Like you said though, even you would probably be able to pick out which wine is better than the other but if you were told beforehand that one is top of the line and highly rated and the other is ghetto wine, your mind might trick you into thinking the former tastes better even if it's actually worse. (Also, what with taste being subjective, the wine you like better might be considered shitty by most wine tasters - but that wouldn't make you objectively wrong.)

On Penn & Teller's show, Bullshit!, (a GREAT show about skepticism that covers a huge range of things - not just the obvious stuff like mediums and psychics - and should be required viewing for everyone in the world. Seriously, watch it. It owns.) they pulled this with bottled water at a nice restaurant. They gave people different waters from faucets and hoses and told them it was super fancy and expensive water from various exotic locales. In some cases, they gave people the same exact water twice in a row but pointed out different supposed qualities each glass had and the people drinking it convinced themselves that they could tell the difference between them. And, of course, they rated the supposedly most expensive waters the highest.

This doesn't mean that every type of water tastes exactly the same though (like, Evian tastes really unsmooth and cheap to me despite its cost and the tap water at my grandmother's house is way better), it just means that people are very impressionable. This is why marketing works.

Another example: Absolut vodka is very well-marketed (I'm sure even the non-drinkers here have heard of it) and it's priced as a mid-topshelf vodka, so people who don't know anything about vodka buy it because of brand recognition and because they assume it's good since it's somewhat expensive. In reality, it's shittier than Popov, which costs at least half as much. It's not smooth at all (which is the number one quality one looks for in a vodka) and it tastes like rubbing alcohol. Still, it's probably the number one brand.

@Berserk: the above applies to what you said too. Exoticism is definitely a factor like cost (again - it's a matter of marketing). I'm pretty sure you can get tea that's just as good if not better here in the US than anything from India or wherever and I'm sure your homemade tea was just fine. I was just trying to say that there's a huge difference between, like, Earl Grey and chamomile and most people could tell the difference. People who have tried tons of teas and know a lot about them could differentiate between teas even further, picking up on subtle differences between two Earl Greys and two chamomiles that may not be apparent to someone less familiar with the beverage. The more you drink it, the less it all just tastes like the weeds from your yard.

It's sort of like how people who aren't that familiar with a certain genre of music (I hear this about metal a lot) will claim that it all sounds the same while that seems crazy to someone who is well-versed in that genre and can effortlessly classify bands into dozens of sub-genres.

Sorry this was so long.
 

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@ Kyuketsuki Thank you. Btw are you working in Japan? Do you know something about the Japanese Valentins Day? Do you give chocolate to anybody? To whom? How much? I work in a restaurant with about 30 people, so I cannot give a lot to everybody. I live in a dorm without propper stove, cooking opportunity, therefore I do not really want to do something by myself (most likely because I am not able to to be honest)


I walked outside today and did not check the weather. I came into a snow storm, which was so bad that I was not able to see anything at all. While I fought against the snow I passed two girls. I offered them my help but they refused, so I went on. The storm was so heavy that I was moved by it a little bit. There were roof avalanches and tiny tornados everywhere. That was a tiny bit scary. When I arrived at my resort and bought a meal ticket for my former restaurant, the people in the office looked at me really shocked and asked me whether I was ok. First I wondered but then I realized that my hair was covered with ice and my hands were slightly blue. I guess I must have looked horrible when they saw me. XD But my former boss gave me a huge and hot bowl of Udon and I was able to warm up a bit.
 

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Iskanderia wrote:
(Also, what with taste being subjective, the wine you like better might be considered shitty by most wine tasters - but that wouldn't make you objectively wrong.)
I'm sure my tastes would be anathema to them XD
"Oh yeah, that wine sucked. Cheeto-tinis are better" ::batsu::

It's sort of like how people who aren't that familiar with a certain genre of music (I hear this about metal a lot) will claim that it all sounds the same while that seems crazy to someone who is well-versed in that genre and can effortlessly classify bands into dozens of sub-genres.
The metal sub-sub-sub-genre thing really is kind of ludicrous though XD There used to be a rolling flamewar going on the Moi dix Mois Wikipedia article about precisely which one they should be classified as ::meev::
 

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Iskanderia wrote:
They gave people different waters from faucets and hoses and told them it was super fancy and expensive water from various exotic locales. In some cases, they gave people the same exact water twice in a row but pointed out different supposed qualities each glass had and the people drinking it convinced themselves that they could tell the difference between them. And, of course, they rated the supposedly most expensive waters the highest.

This doesn't mean that every type of water tastes exactly the same though (like, Evian tastes really unsmooth and cheap to me despite its cost and the tap water at my grandmother's house is way better), it just means that people are very impressionable. This is why marketing works.
Expensive water is like an inside joke for me and my dad XD When we first moved to NYC, we noticed that a lot of people had Fiji water, and we wondered why so we tried it. We thought it was funny because we think it has more to do with appearing "cool" than the actual water taste, so we tried others that were much more expensive and compared the prices (and laughed). Of course there are differences with all the types of water, now I can tell, but perhaps it's just the idea of "expensive water" to me that seems a bit laughable.

The best tasting water I ever had was always in my school's water fountains. I can drink that all day. I don't like "sharp" tasting water like Dasani, I'm not sure how to describe it. The Nongfu Spring water here is good and I like it. It's pleasant and smooth.

What you wrote reminds me of the complaints about Dynasty Warriors because some people are always complaining, "It never changes" or "It's all the same stop making them!" when it's actually changed so much over the years. I think they just play one or two games and not even that much, so they go, "Omg it's the same thingggg." Yeah, the main story is never going to change (::meev::) and it'll always be hack and slash at its core, but they've changed so many other things and its gotten better over time that I think it's ridiculous to say that it's stayed the same. I also like that they're bringing out more people from Three Kingdoms like Lu Su to be characters! :D
Lu Su: *rolls around in his grave* Wait, my weapon is a RAKE?
 

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shazzer wrote:
@ Kyuketsuki Thank you. Btw are you working in Japan? Do you know something about the Japanese Valentins Day? Do you give chocolate to anybody? To whom? How much? I work in a restaurant with about 30 people, so I cannot give a lot to everybody. I live in a dorm without propper stove, cooking opportunity, therefore I do not really want to do something by myself (most likely because I am not able to to be honest)

I do work in Japan. I'm currently in Kansai. :) I do know about Japanese valentine's day, and have been making it a point the past couple days to playfully complain, where appropriate, that the boys should prove chivalry isn't dead and give the ladies chocolates like they're supposed to. ::gaku:: To which all my female coworkers have been replying, "No, I think chivalry is dead in Japan!" and the guys just sort of mentally crawl into a corner and look for an escape route without saying anything, hahaha. Yeah, I'm not giving chocolates to the guys on valentine's day- that's just a world gone topsy-turvy. ::kozi::


I walked outside today and did not check the weather. I came into a snow storm, which was so bad that I was not able to see anything at all.

We're having a "wind storm" in kansai today? All I know is that we've been getting gusts up to 50 MPH for no good reason at all ALL DAY and there's not a cloud in the sky. Very bizarre. Hope you get home ok!! :shock:
 

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Heeelp! I've been having a terrible time with this stupid package I had to send to France, and the USPS website has all this conflicting information. Basically the buyer wanted tracking, and on the website Priority International had this big green "YES THIS HAS TRACKING" check-mark graphic next to it so I bought the postage online and shipped it.

But now, it's become painfully obvious that it doesn't (I looked at my copy of the form and realized there's no fucking bar code on it), and the buyer paid an extra $22 for tracking (compared to First Class). The only thing that the tracking search brings up is the date I paid for the postage.
I see now that there's like a separate bar code you can print out, but they only scan that upon delivery (if they feel like it), so it probably wouldn't have helped much.

Should I explain what happened and refund her part of the shipping? She hasn't realized what's going on yet, but I feel really bad. It is technically my fault, but goddamn does USPS have an awful website. I hardly ever use anything other than First Class for overseas stuff, so this was really confusing for me. Priority should still be a bit faster, but it's not any more secure than First Class.
If I could go back in time, I would have just upgraded her to EMS (I'd have only lost $15 that way...;_; ). Also she's not a native English speaker so she's going to be confused as hell about all this. ::weepy::
 

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@Flowers: the sub-sub-sub genre stuff has gotten thoroughly out of hand but my point was just that the more familiar one becomes with metal (or whatever other genre), the more clear it becomes to them that it absolutely does not all sound the same.

I will admit that all country pretty much sounds the same to me - and it's all just The Worst.
 

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Also she's not a native English speaker so she's going to be confused as hell about all this. ::weepy::

Well, if she's from France you've got plenty of French speakers on the forum - just ask for translation help. I mean I'm not the best choice since I'm not a native speaker but I wouldn't mind helping out.

Yay ran 8 km (5 miles) today. Take that banana for lunch calories!
 

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^Thanks faith. :)

I went ahead and sent her a message explaining the situation and started the partial refund, but if she needs clarification on anything I might turn to French-speaking Scapers for some help.
I can see why a lot of newer sellers are nervous about overseas transactions, because you're dealing with larger amounts of money, there are more unpredictable things that can come up, and you really can't rely on USPS to answer your questions. The office clerks just say "I dunno" and the people on the phone line just Google stuff for you. ::meev::
 

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If you need help, I'll gladly volunteer, Cerceaux.

USPS and such are better at taking your money than at offering a decent service, I'm afraid.
 

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@ Kyuketsuki Thank you. I arrived my dorm without any problems. I only had to fight against those VD chocolate guys that were annoyed because I used the kitchen for frying apples in order to have some Southern German carnival food, while everyone else wanted to do some presents. ::meev:: Japanese people are insane when it comes to VD XD

My VD was actually pretty cool. I just gave everybody at work an envelope filled with 3 sweets and I got some in return (hm one girl had a lot of troubles finding something for me in her pocket, I hope it was still eatable. ::kisaki::

At the evening, my boss organized a trip to Nagano and we went to the temple there, because it has a festival and he wanted us to be able to see it. Afterwards we had a dinner and while we drove back we got beer from him. He is such a lovely guy. I will miss the people here when my work is finished in April.
 

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FUDGE after all that the item tracking suddenly updated like magic.

I still don't know if it continues beyond the US, but if so then I just irreversibly refunded this person 22 bucks for nothing.
Gawd, I should have waited a couple days before going for the nuclear option.

::cuss:: ::spinmad::
 

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PFFFFFFF!

Terrible service.
 

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My fortune cookie wrote:
No one on Earth is as beautiful as you.
My poorly misguided fortune cookie is clearly confused about the definition of the word "fortune". That's not really much of a fortune, it's not nearly as vague as your standard run-of-the-mill cookie and unless Scarlett Johansson, Hitomi Shimatani or Keira Knightley are looking me in the eyes and whispering it to me, I'm not very inclined to believe it. Unless this is one of those "inner beauty" inspirational cookies, and in that case I've got more bad news :grin:
 

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ok I'm sorry but Scarlet? Reaaaallly?
I never understood the hype about her. What is it? Her face is uneven and she has this floppy saggy girl next door quality to her.

Kiera however, yeah. I've got an asexual girl crush on her and Natalie Portman.
 
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