The Documentary + Közi Chronology help

[Anonymous]

I have two questions, one about some archive documentation on Közi, and one about Eve of Destiny staff. Since I'm planning on opening a site, I would greatly appreciate any details you know.

First is, this picture.

Any ideas what time is it from? Year, I mean. And second, please, please, I need details on who that man to Közi's right is. I suspect it's either his brother or his father. It can also be his friend they worked together at a construction site in '90 but since I don't really know the time this picture is from, I can't firmly suspect this option. It is also possible it's Yu~ki but it doesn't really look much like him.

For these pictures, I need to know the year. Malice Mizer indie or pre-Malice Mizer, Matenrou...? Any information appreciated. It appears they are from the same time as the one above but I want to make sure, so I ask about them as well. These came with another picture, a back of an autographed photo, where it has the date 12 Oct 1993 in the back... Sadly, I have no idea what's on the picture so I guess it's just another clue to a -possible- period.

And second, about the people behind and around Eve of Destiny.

I compiled some pictures and numbered the people to make the discussion easier. Obviously, it's who is Person 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8. And since I doubt probably Person 2 is the same Person 6, 7 and 8, who is she? I know Person 8 helped EOD during the soundcheck in Munster but I don't know anything else. Also, I think Person 1 and 5 is one and the same. Then who is Person 3, next to Haru behind? And is Person 4 Minako, looks a lot like her.

I apologize if the last question appears wierd but I really love researching this. These people do a lot for EOD as well, so I thought why not credit them, too? But first, I have to clear up who is who and what do they do the help on which I'll be very glad if you would mind offering.

 

[flowersofnight]

And second, please, please, I need details on who that man to Közi's right is. I suspect it's either his brother or his father. It can also be his friend they worked together at a construction site in '90 but since I don't really know the time this picture is from, I can't firmly suspect this option.

Kozi worked at a construction site while he was in Matenrou then? Where did you hear the '90 date from?
As for those early pictures, I think no one knows when they're from except Kozi and he ain't talking.

And that magazine pic with Kozi standing in front of the posters: I assume you've already tried this but just in case you haven't: Have you researched the bands on those posters? Like, try finding what year the BRITISH BULLDOGS had a live on 8/16 at the LOFT.

As for the rest, I don't know much about EOD so can't help you there...

 

[Herr Doktor Knave]

for the record...
British Buldogs totally rocks

secondly, did you consider the possability that those black and white pictures of Kozi might be form his GIRL days? perhaps the man sitting next to him was one of the GIRL band memebers.

 

[Geisha]

Yes, person 4 is Minako Honda.

*tries to picture Közi working on a construction site*

 

[Lavinia_san]

6-7-8 is the same person : that's Yuko Tsukamoto, EoD's manager.

 

[Case]

I just really hope that you don't even plan to use any pics from Industry or the official EoD site.

 

[flowersofnight]

These came with another picture, a back of an autographed photo, where it has the date 12 Oct 1993 in the back...

Didn't notice this one before... but that picture sure made it around the Internet quickly. I originally posted it here >_<
It's a picture of all 5 members of Malice Mizer... I think it's in the Sans Logique topic or something like that.

 

[Anonymous]

Yes, it is, Flowers, and thanks for sharing it, you have my word that one is not going out of my PC under any circumstances

Second, thanks for the idea of researching the poster. I did research it. If I got everything right, British Bulldogs are a football team who had a world tour, including an August date in Japan, in 1988. Also, I had a confidential discussion with a friend of mine about the first picture. That IS his friend they worked together at the construction site and the picture dates around '86-87, apparently ending the biography of Közi I read mentioning he worked that in '90 was wrong. Still, though, I have no clue about anything related to Girl. In the beginning I thought it was Girl'e but recently found out Közi never had anything to do with Mana's high-school band. Please, this is the only crack left, any further information, or fixes on my current research results accepted.

 

[flowersofnight]

Sorry, I don't think there's any information on GIRL out there at all. Other than that it was located in Tokyo. But if you think that's tough, try looking up info on his band after GIRL, "Beyond the Reinsight"...

And.... British Bulldogs were a football team? XD Ah Kozi, your tastes are just so... wacky! Got any links about them?

EDIT: Hey... why was Kozi wearing his hair so long if he worked at a construction site? Wouldn't there be a danger of it getting caught in something? Or maybe he wore a hairnet on the job! XD XD

 

[Anonymous]

Beyond the Reinsight was after GIRL? o_o;

 

[flowersofnight]

Yeah, it looks that way... on the infamous "data sheet" he appears to be listing his bands in reverse chronological order.

http://www.prideofmind.com/images/kozidata2.png

For those who haven't seen this before: answer #1 is Kozi's "real name". Or at least what he claims it to be. Unfortunately it can be read approximately 10000 different ways...

 

[Anonymous]

Ha... o_o; I've actually written it correctly on his bio. I wonder why I kept thinking GIRL came second.

 

[Anonymous]

I kept researching Beyond the Reinsight and GIRL... I didn't get much in-depth info but at least got dates.

Edit: As for Közi's name, what I know is it's XXXXXXXXXXXXX EDITED BY FLOWERSOFNIGHT. SEE BELOW.

 

[flowersofnight]

Keiyoru,

I've edited your post, which contained kanji that you claimed were Kozi's real name, without posting any source. If that name was really Kozi's name, then it does not belong here, or posted on any other public forum. And if it is not real, then it is just an unfounded rumor which is against board rules.

I tried to help you out a bit by posting some information which was legitimately gathered from public sources. Do you see the difference? If it was in an actual publication then it's fair game, otherwise you're just spreading rumors at best and betraying Kozi's trust at worst.

Don't do this again.


-flowersofnight, moderator

 

[Anonymous]

Everyone already knows Kozi's real name is Rumpelstilskin. Old news

On a serious note, since your gonna put this on a website, and then post it in this popular forum, how you feel if someone gave your name out for use in something you didnt want, like a consolidated debt commercial? Pardon the bad analogy, but seriously, do you know how much harm it can do to give away someone of that nature's name out into the public? Crazy fans *cough* can go so far to seek extremely confidential information such as credit card spending habits, and trust me, much worse. Sure, its fun to see what kind of a person Kozi is, but this forum (at least from wut I gather) is not for people to hunt down celebrities. SO next time, keep in mind of the replications. Haruna Masaki, you say? Well, it's Klaha, but nobody cares anyway.....

Sorry for the long I-know-everything post. But really, now look wut you have done, now the medias in Japan is gonna go crazy now that they know his real name is Rumpelstilskin!

 

[Kamimura]

wow.

 

[Anonymous]

how you feel if someone gave your name out for use in something you didnt want

Oh I have a simple example. How would you all here feel if we gave out your real names on just this forum and then the country and city where you lived as well as your phone number and address (which wouldn't be that hard to get after that). And how about we call your parents while we're at it. And ok some of you say, so what?

Well maybe in your case no one could care less to look you up anyway, but how about you had thousands of people across the world who were just trying to desperately get a hold of you privately cause they want to marry you and have your babies and out of those there would be the odd 1% who didn't know where to stop (there's always people like that) and started getting into your life when you didn't want them there, making things difficult for yourself and your gf/bf and your family and your job even.

Oh come on say, you're overreacting. Well sometimes I think I am too. But then I look at Keiyoru over here...

 

[Akito]

Just think about it this way:

If Kozi wanted everyone to know his real name and other information he would have given it out already. The fact that he hasn't done so should indicate that he would like some privacy, and that we his fans should respect that. Keiyoru, you keep trying to invade this privacy Kozi is trying to maintain. Being one of his biggest and most obsessive fans, the least you could do for him is to respect his privacy and if you some how found out what his name is, be happy that you know it, and keep it to yourself.

 

[Kamimura]

I don't think kei would disagree with you on the private info.
And if you did that to me i'd be so paranoid of being stalked and raped so yeah it always isn't a good idea to post the stuff(I know its an example in but still i'm just adding my two cents here)

 

[Case]

Eheheh Keiyoru, and you call yourself a 'fan' and you say (and maybe even think) that you respect Közi.... hah, you are so damn pathetic. It is people like you that make 'famous' people's life a hell.