The NEW Dir en grey thread

[Formless]

Well that's the general idea of any new band touring on the Family Values tour. And btw, just because Dir en grey is a main stage act, doesn't mean they'll play a long set.

 

[Akane]

Well that's the general idea of any new band touring on the Family Values tour. And btw, just because Dir en grey is a main stage act, doesn't mean they'll play a long set.

Im prolly still gonna go anyway. I can just pay the 10 bucks to listen to their songs and then leave ^.^ They're coming right to my city. about 10 miles from my house
How could I miss out on that?!

 

[Lem]

I'm might be going, I need to check if they are coming in my area. My friend wants to fly clear across the country He has free miles though from flying between Korean/Japan and the US all the time but still....just excessive.

I'm leaving though when the other bands come on though ;D

 

[Flatliner]

I don't know his name, but it's the guy who owns Jpophouse, free-will america, ect. I was talking to him at the con I was at last weekend. He was covering for Harry who ditched the con for meetings in Japan. But anyway, he told me that that was the point of having them tour with those other artists. It's all to build up momentum for their solo tour in the states.

That's hardly an official statement. That's just a common-sense statement of intent. Any band that tours on a package deal is going to have the goal of their own headlining tour.

At some point I'm sure they will try to do their own tour here, but in most markets they may be rellogated to small clubs.

 

[Jrockgadaisukidayo]

I have heard many good opening bands before...it is so sad though when people forget about them. So many times I tell myself "remember their name so I can get their cds", but by the time the concert is over, I have completely forgotten their name, and the napkin I wrote it down on was thrown away. I feel bad for those bands...people just 'forget'...but it is worse with overseas bands...(kinda like what Akane said) They are spending all this money and not being remembered...I don't think it is that people in America (or any other country) just 'dont like them'...they just 'forget about them'. I would be willing to wear a sign on my back saying "The opening band is 'Dir en grey'" if it meant people would take more time to remember it...of course, that is just my opinion...v.v

 

[Kyuketsuki]

Well that's the general idea of any new band touring on the Family Values tour. And btw, just because Dir en grey is a main stage act, doesn't mean they'll play a long set.

Actually, I asked about that, and he told me about 45 mins or so.

That's hardly an official statement. That's just a common-sense statement of intent. Any band that tours on a package deal is going to have the goal of their own headlining tour.

At some point I'm sure they will try to do their own tour here, but in most markets they may be rellogated to small clubs.

Point taken, but this is coming from the man who's pretty much planning all this stuff, and it seemed already laid out the way he spoke about it. And no one said or expected them to play in super huge arenas for every city they may go to.

 

[Flatliner]

I doubt they'll play in a super huge arena in any city on this continent, as headliners.

 

[Amatsu]

personally, i could care less about 'the fan supiriority card.' it bugs me when people are all like 'omg i love dir en grey! They're my favorite band' and don't even know about their old stuff, because they just started liking them. it pisses me off that a whole bunch of people would do this, and i am a supirior fan because i respect them band and know the band better and support them more. just because it bothers me, doesnt mean i'm not going to enjoy the music and the poetry in the music, but it makes me angry that somone who doesnt know a thing about dir en grey can say that dir en grey is their favorite band and not know sh*t, and get away with it because 'i pulled the f*cking fan supiriority card.'

screw that, i'm a better fan then them, and i know it. They falsely mislead people about they're knowledge. its annoying, and idiotic.

 

[Flatliner]

I think you're wasting a lot of energy being angry about it.
It is annoying when your steez are jacked. I still enjoy the bands that have gotten popular over the years, but I console myself by constantly finding new stuff.

Always one step ahead

 

[rizumu]

Mmkay. What I was talking about is when people brand others as not "true" fans, because they only got into a band when it got popular or whatever. The types of dialogues that go like "I've liked them for 3 years!" "But I've liked them since 1999!" "Well I've liked them since they were so indies that they hadn't even formed the band yet!" As if somehow when you discovered the band matters. Not so much people who have heard one song and say "They're my favorite band! Uhhh, who's Toshiya?"

But even still, people aren't going to know everything about a band the moment they get into them, jeezy creezy. There was a point when you didn't know all this stuff either, right? Why the anger?

 

[Iru]

Jrockgadaisukidayo wrote:

I have heard many good opening bands before...it is so sad though when people forget about them. So many times I tell myself "remember their name so I can get their cds", but by the time the concert is over, I have completely forgotten their name, and the napkin I wrote it down on was thrown away. I feel bad for those bands...people just 'forget'...but it is worse with overseas bands...(kinda like what Akane said) They are spending all this money and not being remembered...I don't think it is that people in America (or any other country) just 'dont like them'...they just 'forget about them'. I would be willing to wear a sign on my back saying "The opening band is 'Dir en grey'" if it meant people would take more time to remember it...of course, that is just my opinion...v.v

I completely agree, this has happened to me more than once. It's a shame and i have forgotten so many opening bands already. Im still sure that i'd like many of them but i can't get names to my head, so i'll probably never hear them again.. or the other choice is that they have to come big first.

 

[Amatsu]

I think you're wasting a lot of energy being angry about it.
It is annoying when your steez are jacked. I still enjoy the bands that have gotten popular over the years, but I console myself by constantly finding new stuff.

Always one step ahead

I don't want to get angry about it, i just do. people don't get annoyed by things purposely. it just bothers me. again, i don't let it ruin the music for me.

 

[Flatliner]

Just ask them who Kisaki is.

 

[Akane]

Just ask them who Kisaki is.

XD

 

[[Cerebral-Alteration]]

Well.. I thought the whole Korn/Dir en Grey Touring together was just plans that might come true... until my friend (who doesnt even care for japanese music lol) told me about a commercial he saw...in his words " I was watching TV and they play this commercial and I hear Korn and some other wierd bands and then I hear Dir en Grey and other junk and the fleet center then I go WTF Dir en Grey?? how do they know about Reiko's crazy band. so I was going to call you and you never picked up " Thats what he told me lol! so after that i looked it up and found out about that Family Values thing that you guys have already been talking about lol.

 

[Miz]

personally, i could care less about 'the fan supiriority card.' it bugs me when people are all like 'omg i love dir en grey! They're my favorite band' and don't even know about their old stuff, because they just started liking them. it pisses me off that a whole bunch of people would do this, and i am a supirior fan because i respect them band and know the band better and support them more. just because it bothers me, doesnt mean i'm not going to enjoy the music and the poetry in the music, but it makes me angry that somone who doesnt know a thing about dir en grey can say that dir en grey is their favorite band and not know sh*t, and get away with it because 'i pulled the f*cking fan supiriority card.'

screw that, i'm a better fan then them, and i know it. They falsely mislead people about they're knowledge. its annoying, and idiotic.

Why should it matter though? Their old music is their old music. Period. When I think of things like this, it supports how I say VK and black metal are so alike. 'Cause in black metal, a fan will call a newer fan 'untr00' or 'gay'. Sure there are some situations when a fan supiriority card is needed, but not when it comes to "OMGZ I WAS A FAN LONGER!!11". Seriously, some fans are younger and took longer to discover their favorite kind of music than others. After all, it just sounds elitist and rude when people just act like new Diru fans are dumb or something.

 

[desqui]

Ooh, Dir en grey on tv. hah.
Too bad I don't own a tele.

 

[Akane]

What makes me angry is they spell Dir en grey
Dir En Gray on the MTV website >.>

 

[Kyuketsuki]

What makes me angry is they spell Dir en grey
Dir En Gray on the MTV website >.>

But does it honestly really matter? At least it isn't 'Der in Gray' or something obscene like that. It's just one capitalized letter...

 

[Flatliner]

No it isn't. He said they put Gray instead of Grey.