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[Berserk]

Dialogue Symphonie. The new sample. The end of various Malice Mizer songs. Nocturnal Romance.

Vague and meaningless similarities =/= OMG THEYRE ALL THE SAME

From a musical standpoint, I really don't see how they're even comparable. Dialogue Symphonie doesn't sound like Nocturnal Opera, and the new sample doesn't sound like either of them.

 

[Amatsu]

the guitars do different things. Mana's harpsichord does not.

i completely disagree. i find them to differentiate quite a lot. i think the style stays the same but the melodies are really original imo

 

[Priss]

I like harpsichords alot, but Mana isn't really doing them justice. I like the way he uses them, but he's just digitally playing them through an arpeggiator and voila!

If Mana took the time to play some of the slower songs on a keyboard or...god forbid a real harpsichord! They'd be a whole lot better and have lots of emotions.

Either way, I hope he doesn't start using them. That's just me, though...and i'm a sucker for layers that nobody cares about.

Thank you, Carl Stalling. orz

 

[Demanufacturer]

well if he used a real harpsichord for once, then i think it would sound different, which is good, because it kinda takes away the idea that many of mana's songs/compositions sound the same.

And perhaps he actually does write all the hapsi stuff and not just plays it through a arpeggiator.

 

[Amatsu]

harpsichords are hard to find these days

they're obscure.

unless im a bad searcher... but i've wanted one forever and i've never been able to find on, even online...

 

[flowersofnight]

And perhaps he actually does write all the hapsi stuff and not just plays it through a arpeggiator.

He's said in interviews that his harpsichord parts aren't meant to be played by human hands.

harpsichords are hard to find these days

they're obscure.

unless im a bad searcher... but i've wanted one forever and i've never been able to find on, even online...

I have two, but only one of them is even somewhat playable XD
These guys sell some:
http://www.zhi.net

 

[Evansie@Bufferfly_of_epic]

0.0lll

SO SO BeAuTiFuL!!!!!!!!!(i think someone is gay =.= what am i thinking about of???)

 

[Priss]

And perhaps he actually does write all the hapsi stuff and not just plays it through a arpeggiator.

He's said in interviews that his harpsichord parts aren't meant to be played by human hands.

Yeah, to play most of his arrangements for harpsichord, you'd need to have 3 or 4 hands.

 

[Berserk]

Monophobia and Deflower needed real keyboardists, but since Mana doesn't have a real keyboardist, neither of them were written in a way that would be feasible to perform anyway. Even Monophobia isn't playable by one person.

@flowers: I can't believe you actually own a harpsichord! Are you into authentic classical performance or something?

 

[flowersofnight]

@flowers: I can't believe you actually own a harpsichord! Are you into authentic classical performance or something?

More like they just kind of fell into my possession XD I actually can't play keyboard particularly well; I prefer to sequence. (I guess I'm not that different from Mana in that respect )

One of them I assembled myself, and the other a local college was getting rid of so I took it off their hands. But that one's a wreck... I picked up the parts to restore it but I don't know when I'll find the time. Step 1 would be to remove the hideous green paint

 

[Iskanderia]

I'm that way as well. Besides Mylene Farmer (thanks Mana!) and older music genres (20's 30's), I really don't have a big liking for music other than MM and M+M. I'm a huge fan of the organ and harpsichord, and Mana is the only artist I've found to use them in such a beautiful way. Some other bands might use those instruments, but then they'll have some awful grunge/screamy vocalist which completely turns me off to them.

Actually, I just meant other Japanese music - not music in general. I find a lot of J bands are basically just copies of Western bands but in a different language. Thus, I'm not terribly impressed with much of it.

 

[Miz]

stuff

I could right now hum a song that doesn't exist and it could be ANY of MdM's songs. I'm not saying that they're OMGCLONES, I'm just saying that the songs are not very unique from eachother. The songs all have the exact same feeling, sometimes even the same tempo. He doesn't venture out of his comfort zone. He only has once or twice per album.

You see, when I listen to.. say, a Gackt album (Excluding Diablos), I get a different feeling from every song, a different enviroment.. The same doesn't apply to Mana. I like Mana's music alot, and I enjoy each song as their own song, but they all have the same scenery. It gets really boring. Like, I know what to expect from him. And I don't really enjoy that as much as with other artists where it's like "I wonder what's next!" With Mana, I KNOW what's next. And.. that sample is what I knew was next, except for Seth's performance.

@post above mine: Why does there have to be this huge difference according to country? It's like this conversation I had recently:

Me: ::shows picture::
Person: THEY LOOK TOO AMERICAN
Me: What do you expect, kimonos?!

Can't it just be MUSIC? Jeez. Sure, indies VK sounds unique and not like 'western' music most of the time, but that doesn't make it better.

 

[MorganIvy]

^Just to say, Miz, that I totally agree with you.

 

[Iskanderia]

@post above mine: Why does there have to be this huge difference according to country? It's like this conversation I had recently:

Me: ::shows picture::
Person: THEY LOOK TOO AMERICAN
Me: What do you expect, kimonos?!

Can't it just be MUSIC? Jeez. Sure, indies VK sounds unique and not like 'western' music most of the time, but that doesn't make it better.

Oh, I'm not saying that I expect it to be all exotic and totally unique. I don't care if they "look too American." I'm saying that I don't like Green Day to begin with, so I sure as hell am not going to dig a Japanese version of Green Day.

For instance, I like Buck Tick a lot, and they don't have anything about them that screams JAPANESE BAND. They are a great band regardless of where they come from - and they don't just sound like a carbon copy of an American band.

 

[Miz]

There's mainstream, then there's .. not mainstream. You can't judge american music off of Fall Out Boy can you?

 

[Iskanderia]

...I'm not really trying to argue anything here. I'm just saying that I've been giving a lot of JRock a chance, and I haven't found a ton that I like yet.

Of course, there's not a ton of Western music I like either. I'm picky.

 

[Berserk]

I'm just saying that the songs are not very unique from eachother. The songs all have the exact same feeling, sometimes even the same tempo. He doesn't venture out of his comfort zone. He only has once or twice per album.

If you feel that way I'm not going to lecture you about why I disagree, but I will say that I disagree. I think you can say the tracks on Dix Infernal share the same "scenery", but I have yet to find Mana be repetitive.

One of them I assembled myself

So... you have the ability to stop time? Seriously, I don't understand how you do everything you do. That's pretty impressive.

 

[Miz]

Mana is repetitive the same way Deathgaze is. The same way the key party bands are. The same way UnsraW is after so long. Ect, ect. I still love their music, heck, I listen to UnsraW all the time. But, they still don't leave their comfort zone. Like I said, you KNOW what to expect from them. I can sometimes even guess the next note.

 

[sergeantkitty]

Mana is repetitive the same way Deathgaze is. The same way the key party bands are. The same way UnsraW is after so long. Ect, ect. I still love their music, heck, I listen to UnsraW all the time. But, they still don't leave their comfort zone. Like I said, you KNOW what to expect from them. I can sometimes even guess the next note.

I think most musicians are repetitive in some way or another, in all honesty. I don't expect musicians to jump from one huge change to the next, because you have other musicians to listen if you want something different.

 

[monologue-de-chi]

I like the music Mana has composed. First I think, Mana is the only person who can make music like this and 2nd I also think that the songs are different.
But it's taste and some people like it and some not.
I am not good in music thing, so I can not take a look on the professial side of MdM, but I can say that I adore the music^^