Which is the best rpg series?

Which series you think is the best?

  • Dragon Quest

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  • Final Fantasy

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  • Tales of [something]

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  • Lufia

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  • Lunar

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  • Grandia

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  • Breath of Fire

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  • Phantasy Star

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  • Kingdom Hearts

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  • Zelda

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  • Star Ocean

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  • Suikoden

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  • Golden Sun

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  • Xenosaga

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  • Wild Arms

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  • Legend of Legaia

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  • Secret of Mana

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  • Shin Megami Tensei

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  • Shadow Hearts

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  • Fire Emblem

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Camuflagem

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Pierrot wrote:
But the menus -are- the battle system, I'd like to know what you see as nonfluid and fluid, I really want to understand =).
Yes, i know the menus are the battle system, but not just this. You are forgetting the power that these menu gives you while playing, in DQ/FF old style (as for you to think that i am not only pointing bad things about DQ ;) ), you are forced to keep a cast of characters until the very end. While FF10 gives you the power of flexibility in battle. You can change your cast any time...i don't know about you, but i found this to be really great, and also there is a bar on the side that gives you a hint in what order will be the turn of each character based on your actions. so, if you chose to use a potion this turn, the boss may not attack you; instead if you chose to use a fire magic, for example, it might lead the boss to attack before any of your characters and kill all of your party. If these all aren't improving in the way players interact and make their strategies, then i don't know what it is... I thought this way they gave the gameplay a lot of dynamics. I hope you understand my point this time.

Pierrot wrote:
Ah, but isn't seeing the quality of a work by your taste, choosing a side?
Well, It is not. because i can see some of the value of Dragon Quest. I am not one of those fanatic people that say "X game is the best and all about Y game sucks". I can see the points where DQ shines, but still they don't change my idea of it being a good game for me. And i wouldn't spend time playing a game i think it is crap, just to say "oh, i beat it!"........so, what?

Also, if you read some of my old posts, i said some bad points about FF as well.
 

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Thank you, I understand what you mean better.

Oh, I couldn't help but notice your Okami icon. I only rented it, couldn't play it alot and got really annoyed at the long loading times (I get easily annoyed at 3/4 of the games for that, so I guess I could be less and less of a 'gamer' because of loading times), the voices when characters talked annoyed me to no end, and the text was endless, too.

Does it get better later, are any of those problems fixed, and does the story lead somewhere except just a basic old tale? I feel I have to give that game a second chance.
 

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Pierrot wrote:
Thank you, I understand what you mean better.

Oh, I couldn't help but notice your Okami icon. I only rented it, couldn't play it alot and got really annoyed at the long loading times (I get easily annoyed at 3/4 of the games for that, so I guess I could be less and less of a 'gamer' because of loading times), the voices when characters talked annoyed me to no end, and the text was endless, too.

Does it get better later, are any of those problems fixed, and does the story lead somewhere except just a basic old tale? I feel I have to give that game a second chance.

I started playing Ookami yesterday. So far, i enjoyed what i played, and i am sorry to say that the loadings keep the same as well as the voices of the characters. I can't say much about the story, as i didn't finish it yet, but the japanese mythological theme interests me a lot.

I think you should give it a second chance, though. It is a decent game and fun! :D
 

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even though i have not played all of those games, i choose Zelda
with a very good reason!


Ocarina of Time ;)
 

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Load time makes or breaks a game with me :| My boyfriend is interested in Okami, I will warn him about the load time. He may not be as impatient as me though and still get it :P I'm not sure, I just know I get easily frustrated with lag/load time in games.

I don't really like how some games don't have the main character speak at all, yet then again my two favourite RPG series is Chrono Cross/Trigger and Zelda xD They make up for it with other things and it's always better then having a total moron as the main character. One reason I hated Tales of Symphonia was because well all the characters were generic and bland, but the main character was just so irritating. Couldn't stand him and thus never finished that game because well why play a game that only annoys you with stupid characters. Also the voices didn't quite help either ;)

For the record, even though FF10 is not my most favourite RPG I did like the battling in it. Don't get all omg battle graphs on me, I just liked how you could switch out between your entire party. So you aren't suddenly stuck in a fight thinking 'Dang why didn't I add that character to my party instead!' nonsense ;) Also it was pretty neat how you could go over 9999, yet I never did it myself since I just borrowed my friend's PS2/game. (I don't own a PS2 (laughs)) I still beat it though, final boss was a joke :P
 

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-Lemharth- wrote:
For the record, even though FF10 is not my most favourite RPG I did like the battling in it. Don't get all omg battle graphs on me, I just liked how you could switch out between your entire party. So you aren't suddenly stuck in a fight thinking 'Dang why didn't I add that character to my party instead!' nonsense ;) Also it was pretty neat how you could go over 9999, yet I never did it myself since I just borrowed my friend's PS2/game. (I don't own a PS2 (laughs)) I still beat it though, final boss was a joke :P

Indeed, that was probably my favorite part of the battle system in 10. It's like square got together and decided to say, without actually saying it, "I don't give a shit if you think that character's an annoying little skankaho. You have absolutely no excuse not to level her up NOW."

And it really cut down on the time I spent leveling up, i'm obsessive with leveling up...its almost sad how much time I spend on it. o.O; So when they added -that- wonderful feature I was quite happy.
 

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I liked the battling in FF10 as well. I wasn't even focusing on the graphics anyhow so that has nothing to do with why I like it. The reason I do is like what Lemharth said, and leveling was much easier this way.

Another thing I really liked about FF10 was the sphere orbs for saving. I liked how you didn't need to waste a lot of healing items because if you found one of those, it healed everyone in the party - or so I remember. This really helped, as well.

Anyhow I hope they start focusing on making another Chrono game because that's more exciting to me than a Final Fantasy any day.
 

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it's not on the list but I'm going with teh Chrono series.
I was dissappointed with Chrono Cross though :(

I know Chrono Trigger like the back of my hand XD
 

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I'd be way more excited for a new Chrono game then an FF game any day ;) Yet I won't hold my breath because I'm sure Square-Enix will just stick with pumping out FF games since it's a far more familiar series.

FF10 I liked how you would get in a fight with a machine, then you could bring up that thief girl and she can kill it in one hit. Then if you fought an elemental monster you could bring up the Goth girl and she'd just blast it with whatever element magic it was weak against. I forgot how it was easy to level though :P I hated X-2 though, what was the deal with the fighting D: I hated the dress spears it was annoying. The whole game just seemed like something for the fanboys to cream their pants over. I remember once this fanboy made a big deal about how the US version darkened Yuna's skirt in the opening scene making it hard to see her panties. Had to make a big long rant about it with screen shots comparing it to the 'horrible Americanized' version.

Ugh, one of many reasons I don't like most of the FF fanbase (laughs)
 

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Wandering_Fox wrote:
There was that project that was making the 3D Chrono Trigger, but Squaresoft made them close down or they'd be sued... I really wanted to play that!
I've seen screenshots of it, it actually looked really good. Too bad they were forced to close down :| Square has the right too but it should hint that they should do a cool 3D remake or just make another game in the series :P
 

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Square states that with the succes and popularity of FFIII DS remake, they -really- want to make remakes of other games. As in total remakes.
 

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voted for Xenosaga..Xenogears's my fav jRPG (yeah..I know it isn't Xenosaga...but there're some references to Xenogears in Xenosaga)
Krelian and Albedo...*_*
(I just began play in Xenogears again, yesterday XD)

..I hope that Xenosaga dooesn't end on episode III...


beside Xeno,I adore Shadow Hearts...especially SHI..such dark mood isn't often in jrpgs....and Yuri ^_^

nah..I generally like jRPGS ..Suikoden...Chrono..Parasite Eve..etc ...etc
...and Mitsuda music^^
<about FF...I think that some things should end some day...>
 

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Garnet wrote:
..I hope that Xenosaga dooesn't end on episode III...
I think it's going to end there. I remember reading some game information site and Episode III will be 'it' because sales were reportedly low in Japan.

Maybe the other three episodes will be made in the distant future . . .
 

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Even if episode III becomes a best seller, it is confirmed that Xenosaga III is the last episode. not only did they suffer poor sales, but with the merge of the company, they just don't give a shit about it anymore.
 

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Oh, and by the way, if anyone wants to buy any Final Fantasy games (for PSX or PS2, including Chronicles, Anthology, Origins, Tactics, VII, X, X-2 discluding IX since I got rid of it a while ago, and maybe VIII cos I like it a lot =D) let me know before I put them up on eBay.
Same goes for Lunar 1, 2 and Dragon Song ::cred::
And Grandia 2 and Shenmue and Skies of Arcadia for DC
EDIT: and Xenogears and Xenosaga
(I'm going to my parent's house tonight so I might be forgetting some stuff, but I'll post more when I know..)
 

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It's funny how they can brag at how much it sold ( because of the name ) but I find NO ONE in the WHOLE WORLD, who enjoyed the game.
 

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5 years ago, I would have said Final Fantasy. XD;

Xenosaga is my favourite at the moment. :D
 
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